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I hate this 'they allready have one they cant have another' attitude, why not? Give one good, valid reason why we should brush this off as 'just another hypercoaster.' I look at it as one of the elite, rare coasters that go over 300ft, and as one from an engineering background I appreciate how...

^^^There is. Its huge and blue. And how much water would it spray? Quite a bit.

And a water splash like that would kill a lot of speed, bad idea on something relying on it.

Hogwarts express?

^SD2K is two chains that switch in the middle, this IS the longest.

I loved the Jaws ride, it was funny and it was a laugh. I hate Potter, despise it. And if were seeing Potterland now, give it 10/15 years... Twilight... The Experience...

Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013 I still think this layout is suited to x car, Gersts trains or a new concept perhaps?

I adore the flier and wingrider restraints, perhaps it is because Im a short arse and a twig. But the over the shoulder foamy strap things are MUCH more comfortable than regular OTSRs from them.

Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013 Absolutely, everyone just interperets it as one. And to be honest, the public probably dont care if it is worlds first or not.

Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013 The X- Train looks too bulky to fit this layout, better suited for a large megalooper than this. And Nemesis wasn't a worlds first, possibly they are going back to the first SW concepts, SW1 and 2's concepts were not worlds firsts...

Sounds intriguing, physically different to a lot of vanilla drop towers. Looks good!

Im loving the wingrider restraints, similar to the ones on fiers correct?

Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013 As I say, Lord of Darkness could play in the theming.

Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013 Id like to see if the Lord of Darkness is back if this comes off.

Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013 I forgot how s#!t that picture was!

Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013 ^How?

Though I never rode it, The Bat Arrow suspended was apparently a b***h!

Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013 Mines on X car.

Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013 Didnt know about a lawsuit, interesting. I doubt after that they would deal with them Im banking on X car.

Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013 Or their new X train perhaps? Though that looks a little too tight for that. And if it is Gerstlaur Im guessing they are using a new concept or using the eurofighter trains and system on a megalooper. Very strange. I think it may be Maure...