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What's next for RMC?

Sanchezmran said:
I don't think an original Iron Horse is likely. Why do that when they can just make it a woodie? Aside from the IBox track, they're pretty much the same thing it terms of layout and design (same trains, same elements/maneuvers).
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A park could advertise a coaster as the world's longest hybrid, earning a legitimate record without having to build something 7,600 feet long or whatever to pass The Beast.

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I totally missed the announcement. There could be some advantages regrading construction, like how some have mentioned how few supports would be needed, though I must confess that I don't see how it would lead to radically new designs. There are only so many ways to combine roll, pitch, and yaw, and even if the material can handle high forces, coasters still can't pull 9G turns like fighter planes.

CoasterCrazy said:
Surely this must be about more than turn radius and smoothness? So I had a think. With Alan's involvement in X2 and the recent 4D freefly...couldn't RMC just put a second track below the first with the extra depth of the track?
Could we see the next generation of controlled spinning 4Ds?
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What advantage would it give over X2, though? I've never been on it, but I would think that RMC's track engineering and construction techniques/tolerances would make the basic Arrow design be smooth, which is probably the complaints about X2.
 
Re: What's next for RMC? New Concept Coaster (page 4)

This is great, can't wait to see what comes of the design. I wonder if this will reduce cost enough for parks to install hypers/gigas that previously weren't able to afford one in the past. Not to mention seeing some crazy manuevers we havent seen thus far.
 
Re: What's next for RMC? New Concept Coaster (page 4)

Guys isn't it obvious it's gonna be a lauched flying aquatrax?
 
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BigBad said:
CoasterCrazy said:
Surely this must be about more than turn radius and smoothness? So I had a think. With Alan's involvement in X2 and the recent 4D freefly...couldn't RMC just put a second track below the first with the extra depth of the track?
Could we see the next generation of controlled spinning 4Ds?
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What advantage would it give over X2, though? I've never been on it, but I would think that RMC's track engineering and construction techniques/tolerances would make the basic Arrow design be smooth, which is probably the complaints about X2.
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It would probably make the spinning transitions a LOT more smoother than the current rock-n-knock they all have. Its bad enough that you do have to brace yourself most of the time for it.
 
Re: What's next for RMC? New Concept Coaster (page 4)

RMC released renderings of the trains!

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Re: What's next for RMC? New Concept Coaster (page 4)

I love the appearance of 6-person cars, but I thought that amounted to less manoeuverability.
 
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^Me too. Will be interesting to see what they do with them. The seats do look quite deep too, I wonder if this is to make sure you stay in during all the crazy airtime! :p

They sure look a lot like hyper trains, I wonder if we'll be seeing some crazy spans with the new track?
 
Re: What's next for RMC? New Concept Coaster (page 4)

Yeah, these don't look to be able to handle certain tight maneuvers like on Cyclone and TC. They remind me of two things in particular: Premier New Gen (though that could just be the two cars) and mostly Giovanola. I agree with Hixee, they look like hyper trains. I could see RMC using this on their own version of the B&M hyper. And I love the thought of it. <3
 
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Jarrett said:
Yeah, these don't look to be able to handle certain tight maneuvers like on Cyclone and TC. They remind me of two things in particular: Premier New Gen (though that could just be the two cars) and mostly Giovanola. I agree with Hixee, they look like hyper trains. I could see RMC using this on their own version of the B&M hyper. And I love the thought of it. <3
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Based on their previous creations, I wouldn't imagine an RMC hyper will have much floater... ;)
 
Re: What's next for RMC? New Concept Coaster (page 4)

This is all very exciting... but did they by any chance announce any plans to increase their output to more than 3 coasters per year?
 
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Still have those damn shin restraints. The ONLY detractor from their rides tbh. I wish they would get rid of them. :)
 
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^They really don't make any difference. You barely notice them.
 
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It's not the prettiest of concepts, but I'm sure it will cut down manufacturing costs by quite a bit! However I don't see how it can be stronger than e.g. B&M or Intamin double spine track?

Interesting to see a steel coaster train with 3 rows of seats, don't know when that was the last time? Probably meaning this type of coaster will be used for larger rides (hyper/gigas?) since those trains most likely can't navigate a tight curve radius.

All in all an interesting concept; it's always nice to see something new! And since I've ridden my first RMC coaster (TC) I can only hope for more being built! :--D


Intricks said:
BigBad said:
CoasterCrazy said:
Surely this must be about more than turn radius and smoothness? So I had a think. With Alan's involvement in X2 and the recent 4D freefly...couldn't RMC just put a second track below the first with the extra depth of the track?
Could we see the next generation of controlled spinning 4Ds?
Click to expand...
What advantage would it give over X2, though? I've never been on it, but I would think that RMC's track engineering and construction techniques/tolerances would make the basic Arrow design be smooth, which is probably the complaints about X2.
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It would probably make the spinning transitions a LOT more smoother than the current rock-n-knock they all have. Its bad enough that you do have to brace yourself most of the time for it.
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I actually didn't find X2 all that rough; it's propably smoother than 90% of the woodies out there! But still: it could need some improvement :) I'm sure RMC track á la the Batman freespin could resolve this issue (with on pair of guide rails on the inside and the other on the outside of the track). The beefier RMC track would probably also resolve some of the issues with the heavy 4D trains tearing the track apart!
 
Re: What's next for RMC? New Concept Coaster (page 4)

^Unlike Batman The Ride at Six Flags Fiesta Texas, they're not actually building Total Mayhem. RMC is just manufacturing the track. S&S will outsource the construction itself and another company in Idaho will take over the track manufacturing starting in 2016. By subcontracting the Free Fly track manufacturing and handing over the construction process to S&S, RMC will hopefully have more time and manpower to put into the single rail/track coaster. Although no parks have purchased one yet, they confirmed that there are a few parks that are interested in purchasing one. However, they also said at last year's IAAPA Attractions Expo that they are fully booked through 2017 with their current projects, so I assume that we won't see one of these opening before 2018. So I think that we'll see four more RMC Iron Horse conversions/woodies for 2017 and three plus one of these the following year.
 
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andrus said:
Interesting to see a steel coaster train with 3 rows of seats, don't know when that was the last time? Probably meaning this type of coaster will be used for larger rides (hyper/gigas?) since those trains most likely can't navigate a tight curve radius.
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Magnum has three rows per train, as does Steel Force, so I'd imagine that the other Arrow and Morgan hypers/giga do that as well.

I've never been on an RMC, but I am excited about the idea of them making their own version of Magnum or Steel Force.

(I'm kind of curious how an RMC of Steel Force would look, like if Dorney did to it what has been done with Texas Giant, Rattler, etc. It has a big hill and then a turnaround. How many hills would RMC fit in there before the helix?)
 
Re: What's next for RMC? New Concept Coaster (page 4)

This morning RMC and Coaster-Labs sent us the latest high res images of the trains:

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Re: What's next for RMC? New Concept Coaster (page 4)

^Jerry, did they tell you during the tour why they changed the 2 row per train design to 3? If there's any practical reason behind the decision? :)

It's an odd choice since more and more manufacturers are going for less rows per car to increase the train manouverability and/or make the ride smoother. The only thing I can imagine for such a decision is cheaper construction since you would need fewer wheel bogies per passenger. But I'm sure RMC/Coaster-Labs has it's reasons :)
 
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