Thorpe Park |"The Swarm"| B&M Wing Coaster

[corranator]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

some more photos of the swarm. u need to scroll down a bit see them. http://live.thorpenerd.com

 

[jordypordy11]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

^^

So we can see that half the final brake run is complete, nice pictures via thorpe park nerd

 

[bob_3_]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

I take my last statement back, there are brakes there haha.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

^^ Those images clears it up pretty good.
That section after the in-line will trim down the speed and then do a sweeping turn into the brakes (much like Rita).

^ Raptor on the other hand is designed to stop you on the brake-run after the in-line (which it do until the station is cleared). So seeing that part as a trim (which it looks to be on the images) is a good call when comparing the bankings.
Looks like they just are going to have magnetic brakes on that section since there is no holes in the track and it's not the "high spine" version to be able to put friction brakes on it as well...

 

[Lofty]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

I take my last statement back, there are brakes there haha.

Wait? You weren't joking?

Everything up to this point has said that it was the brake run, why did you doubt it? Plus, are you not sure in thinking that turning is that heavily banked so the train can make such a tight manoeuvre or even to prevent extreme laterals if taken at a bit of speed?

 

[bob_3_]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

Wait? You weren't joking?

Everything up to this point has said that it was the brake run, why did you doubt it?

Well we always assumed it was a brake run, but nothing explicitly says it the plans it is. So it was a possibility, as there's enough room for all the brakes in the straight piece after the corner. And the in-line on raptor isn't taken at the highest of speeds, I'm assuming this will be similar.

What I was really on about was whether or not these brakes will be block breaks (ie, likely to stop the train completely) Loefet's pretty much covered what I was saying about them being trims though.

are you not sure in thinking that turning is that heavily banked so the train can make such a tight manoeuvre or even to prevent extreme laterals if taken at a bit of speed?

Well actually, that was my point. I was saying it's heavily banked, so maybe there's no brakes before it.. Obviously I'm wrong as there's a few magnetic brakes in place.

Why's everyones so edgy on CF lately, I was just suggesting a theory.

 

[corranator]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

just to say cos i forgot, i am not thorpe nerd and i didn't take the photos all credit goes to thorpe nerd.

 

[oriolat2]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

The section looks good!

BTW, what makes you think that this won't operate like Raptor and the train won't be completely stopped before that turn? After all, it's a block section and shouldn't allow the train to roll unless the station is clear, like Raptor...

 

[jordypordy11]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

The section looks good!

BTW, what makes you think that this won't operate like Raptor and the train won't be completely stopped before that turn? After all, it's a block section and shouldn't allow the train to roll unless the station is clear, like Raptor...

Because, on the picture, after the drop down it will enter another section of brakes, Easily long enough to hold the train. I'm not obviously 100% because I'm not the designer, but I doubt they would leave the train on the first set of brakes when there's a closer set nearer to the station.

 

[CoasterCrazy]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

They might use a trim earlier on in the ride to slow it down...

This ride should be up in no time now. Colour scheme looking great, but will this be completed before wild eagle?

 

[jordypordy11]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

They might use a trim earlier on in the ride to slow it down...

This ride should be up in no time now. Colour scheme looking great, but will this be completed before wild eagle?

You'd think so, because Thorpe's is on a smaller scale, overall its a smaller ride height-wise.
The difficult terrain at Dollywood, like the man said in the construction video on their website, will slow them up, and obviously thorpe parks terrain is flat.

 

[the king]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

^Don't forget that some footers, haven't even been laid yet. Well the ones for the helicopter section haven't, and that will delay the construction. It can be seen in that pic of the whole site by the way if you're wonderin.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

BTW, what makes you think that this won't operate like Raptor and the train won't be completely stopped before that turn? After all, it's a block section and shouldn't allow the train to roll unless the station is clear, like Raptor...

There is no space for friction brakes on that section, as I said above, no holes or extra space between the rails and track to install a B&M friction brake, it seems like there are just magnetic brakes on it.
And since it just have magnetic brakes then it will never be a block section, think of it as the magnetic fins on the last hill on Rita or Desert Race. A bit of trimming down the speed before the final brake-run.

 

[jordypordy11]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

Yeah, agree'd! here's a closer look at the brake run. Certainly at the moment there's not alot there, my money's on it being like rita..

and then here, (the picture below) you can see the supports down for the final brake section. So I take it they'll be doing that tomorrow .....

Credit for the pictures - Theme park guide - http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.229199177135389.66408.163052343750073&type=1

 

[Beans]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

As promised some piccys of the first bits of Swarm track to be erected, have cropped and zoomed for those who like a closer look. Hope this makes you all happy now.....mostly taken from behind Stealth. These were what I took with my pocket camera 6.10.2011, the ones sent in advance were from iPhone and my mobile.

Closer view of that one, being transfer track area.

Now lets get in closer

Now to where all the action is

Back to the Chapel

All bolted in

And the next bit is on its way

And now the dangling track now in place a couple of hours later, with another piece being driven in by lorry, didn’t go back again as having too much fun in Mazes.
If at this rate they can turn track around in a couple of hours for those pieces close to the ground it could be up pretty fast. The higher pieces will take longer though, I might be going back Thursday(no promises), this time I will take a camera with a better zoom)

 

[mouse]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

Great pictures beans, wow, that track really is huge.

 

[Smithy]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

Must just be the angle that scews the depth somewhat but that bend off the banking looks sharp.

 

[tks]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

Is that a piece of theming arriving in the last picture?

 

[mouse]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

Possibly, although I think it's a bit small, when riding you won't be able to see it well.

 

[Beans]

Re: The Swarm - B&M 'Wing-Rider', Thorpe Park 2012

Is that a piece of theming arriving in the last picture?

You know I have a plane in nearly every photo, so I think someone is trying to tell me something, I hope it arrives by road though and not fly in itself.....