owentaylor121
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^I think he may have just been joking... Or I hope so.
^I think he may have just been joking... Or I hope so.
2012Jarrett said:Yuck! I actually took a great picture of Kings Island that captures that on Diamondback's bunny hop into the final helix. How could I not think of that? I just thought that the force caused by the train in the pullout would be greater with the weight further out.
I sort of get what you're saying but I sort of don't. Are these formulas right? (I struggle with reading my problems in school and do much better when I can actually see it)
Let Ftrain stand for the centripetal force put out by the train when it goes through the pullout
Let Mrest stand for the mass of the train at rest.
Ftrain/Mrest=5 Gs
Correct? Sorry, I'm just trying to understand what you're saying. I'm working on this degree to get a job in the amusement industry doing this and I want to make sure I know as much as I can about coaster physics ASAP.
Antinos said:2012Jarrett said:Yuck! I actually took a great picture of Kings Island that captures that on Diamondback's bunny hop into the final helix. How could I not think of that? I just thought that the force caused by the train in the pullout would be greater with the weight further out.
I sort of get what you're saying but I sort of don't. Are these formulas right? (I struggle with reading my problems in school and do much better when I can actually see it)
Let Ftrain stand for the centripetal force put out by the train when it goes through the pullout
Let Mrest stand for the mass of the train at rest.
Ftrain/Mrest=5 Gs
Correct? Sorry, I'm just trying to understand what you're saying. I'm working on this degree to get a job in the amusement industry doing this and I want to make sure I know as much as I can about coaster physics ASAP.
Instead of mass of the train at rest, it's force of the train at rest. The train has a mass, but because gravity is acting on it, it is exerting a force on the track. Since it is at rest, the track is exerting an equal force back on the train. This is Newton's first law - equal and opposite reactions.
For example, say you have a train that, at rest, exerts a force of 10,000 Newtons (about 4.5 Newtons equals one pound). You also have a circular pullout, to keep things simple, that exerts a centripetal force on the train of 50,000 N (we will also neglect gravity to keep this very simple). Simply take 50,000/10,000 and you have your g-force.
Once you get into your hardcore statics, dynamics, and mechanics of materials courses, this material will be a lot more clear. For now, it's best to stick to simple examples and certain concepts.
Pfft, lucky you! :x I have to wait two semesters.rollermonkey said:I start Statics on Sept. 23rd.
Somehow, I don't see us getting into rollercoaster physics right away.
I think that coasters use a wide variety of physics, and both basic physics as well as advanced concepts are needed to design one. So if I know just basic stuff, I should be able to do some small things, but not the more advanced stuff.Antinos said:^Haha true, but you'll learn some concepts that can be applied to roller coaster design. For instance; trusses and moments.
2012Jarrett said:Pfft, lucky you! :x I have to wait two semesters.rollermonkey said:I start Statics on Sept. 23rd.
Somehow, I don't see us getting into rollercoaster physics right away.
Back to this, I think that this will be an inverted coaster called Banshee but with the "winging it" tweet there is a small possibility it will be a wing coaster. I would prefer a wing coaster, but I'd love an invert too.
Naw, Don Helbig is the head of PR at Kings Island, and arguably the biggest roller coaster fan out there. He holds the world record for most rides on the Racer at 12,000 rides in 2012, and celebrated his 1,000th visit to the park in 2004.tomahawKSU said:What if The Bat is actually intended for a different CF park. Literally the only difference from that page is header and footer, and that would require basically zero work to switch it out.
I know 2 years ago a park was having discussions of adding one 2014-2015 plus that park has a large opening for something of the size needed.
Probably wrong as I thought it was a wing rider anyways, but there's a hunch.