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Christmas #1

Hmmm, yeah, I just wish it was something more family orientated.

I totally agree with what the political stance here is on this whole thing. But just wish it was something else more christmassy lol. I dont like the other song either btw, hence my support of the muppets; Its daft and stupid and amusing... perfect Christmas number 1
 
It may not be christmassy but. It'll rile Cowell to say we've stolen his no.1 spot, oh wait the young lads no.1 spot ;)
 
Neal said:
Why can't we have stuff like Bob the Builder and Mr Blobby anymore? :(

Exactly! I want a silly song that is just plain pathetic so that on New Years Eve I have something stupid to dance like a prat to when I am drunk!

Ironically though Neal... guess what music mogul was behind those songs......... or very similar at the very least..... anyone remember Zig n Zags single?

and that is the point Dave. People are doing this to get at Cowell... not Joe, yet he will suffer out of it! Nice and christmas spirited that.... and there was me thinking was a time to be nice lol!
 
He will suffer? I'm sure if he does get no.1 he'll get dropped amd forgotten this time next year when this starts up again
 
^If you come to mine on New Year's you're not dancing to the Muppets!

I don't think my opinion on christmassy christmas No.1s is valid though, I bought Mad World.
 
Oh you know that for sure do you Dave?

Im pretty sure they said the same about Girls Aloud, Will Young, Leona Lewis, JLS and Alexandra Burke.....

It doesn't always turn out to be a failed career you know....

Rob.... I will find something daft to dance to im sure...... if not from your ipod... then lucys! BTW. I thought Mad World was awesome!
 
Dave said:
He will suffer? I'm sure if he does get no.1 he'll get dropped amd forgotten this time next year when this starts up again

Um yes Dave. Leona, Alexandra, JLS, even Chico to an extent and he didn't even win it! :lol:
 
Dave said:
^ It was no.1 yesterday then lost out. But looks good, but the hard copy goes on sale tomorrow...grrr...

Last year, the CD sales accounted for less than 2% of the overall sales.

It's all in the downloads, really.
 
Mark said:
Oh you know that for sure do you Dave?

Im pretty sure they said the same about Girls Aloud, Will Young, Leona Lewis, JLS and Alexandra Burke.....

And they said the same about Gareth Gates, One True Voice, Steve Brookstein, Shayne Ward and Leon Jackson... whoever the hell they are... :p

Dave does have a point.
 
To be fair, Gareth Gates is still working, he was doing Joseph a few months ago!


The rest though :p
 
Mark said:
Slash said:
And the reason i think its so damn choice is because its saying to X Factor. The lovely line of...

<img> YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!

Yeah.... real Christmassy that...... :roll:

Id rather hear a family/kids/party song get it tbh but there ya go. I suppose I should be grateful that it may buck some certain ideas up in the music industry!

I do agree with what some people in the media is saying, the one who gets hurt in all of this will be Joe, when he really isnt the bad guy in all of this!

Yeah, well, its just rebellion, plus its the first time, people are really fighting for the number one slot since Slade and (**** forgotten their names). It's made the charts a talking point and its made everyone interested.

Plus lets face it, Joe isn't missing out he has a £1 million contract, just because he doesn't hit number one doesn't mean he is a failure. Do most artists hit number one on their first album? Hell no!! Its just cause its X Factor he expects it! Which he shouldnt.

RATM FTW!
 
Can't be arsed to wade through all of this.

One point, whether you buy Rage or Joe, it's still money in the bank for Sony. So those of you who were talking about sticking 2 fingers up to Simon Cowell by supporting RATM, think again. Either way, you'll be helping to pay that smug twat 's wages.

However, despite this, I think it'll be hilarious to get Rage to #1. That's why I bought it last night :)
 
Mark said:
Yeah.... real Christmassy that...... :roll:

Id rather hear a family/kids/party song get it tbh but there ya go. I suppose I should be grateful that it may buck some certain ideas up in the music industry!

I do agree with what some people in the media is saying, the one who gets hurt in all of this will be Joe, when he really isnt the bad guy in all of this!

I don't think Joe is going to get hurt, but if he does...

1. Why should somebody be guaranteed a No.1 hit because:
a) They have been on a talent show.
b) A talent show designed to end when the sales of singles are highest therefore manufacturing an environment for them to get to N0. 1

2. Coming in at number 2 with sales of over 500,000 (potentially) is hardly hurting him. The sales of his single will not be harmed by the sales of RatM. People will be buying one, or the other (I can only imagine).

So, if he released in June, then his sales would not be as high and he would be less likely to hit number 1. Record sales will still be just as high.

So, the question is, how does he get hurt? He doesn't get a number 1 which is manufactured and not actually earned? He doesn't get paid as much (he does, sales figures will remain the same)? He won't get a record contract if he's not number 1 (doesn't sound like anyone really wanted to give him one in the first place then)?

So, in what way is Joe losing out?

Anyway, I agree Mark, I'd prefer something less "harsh" for a number 1 - which is why I supported The Muppets from the off (and bought their single too).

I think the reason I really support this (and probably many others) - is simply because there's been a huge group of people listening to "their own" music for along time.

The thing is, that they tend to listen to a genre, but never hook into a band (or single release) simultaneously. So the charts are always a representation of a manufactured "pop world" controlled by people like Simon Cowell. Executive producers and the like who decide what it is people want to listen to, then putting in huge amounts of money to "make it so".

The charts have always been like this to be fair - even in the "musical purity" of the 70's and 80's the popular sub-genres where taken and mass produced for profit (The Damned, Adam and the Ants, etc.)

However, suddenly, it looks like everyone has stuck together. It's quite odd. I've been complaining about the charts for 20-odd years, and whenever I've bought a single, it's never done very well - as it's always something a bit too off the wall (though sometimes they've broken the top 40).

There's a gel here that has caught the imagination of music lovers though. Suddenly, everyone has a single focus to "get one over" on the manufactured nature of the charts.

Yes, Sony win no matter what (and Cowell, as he has shares in Sony). It's not about trying to break the labels though, or Cowell, or bring a new artist/label to light. It's just a way to actually finally make a protest. A "we've had enough of you telling us what to do, we want some bloke off Facebook to tell us what to do instead!" :lol:

Plus, it's all very silly :)
 
Last year, the CD sales accounted for less than 2% of the overall sales.

It's all in the downloads, really.

Its probably a different situation at Christmas with alot of people buying the cd as presents.

I hope Joe does make it to the Christmas number 1 as it might be his only chance of ever having a number 1 single if his career doesn't take off after the X-Factor. Plus I hate the RATM single.
 
And that shows like Britain's Got Talent have got people back into music :lol: .

Okay they have discovered singers like Paul Potts and Susan Boyle but most people only watch BGT to see funny acts with people dancing or doing tricks with animals.
 
Double post - but it's a cracker! :)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cCdfwiRF3g[/youtube]

Oh yeah, Caution: Explicit lyrics and all that!
 
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