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Screaming Coasters said:
Well they turned Haunted Mansion into Haunted Holiday Mansion or whatever its called. And THATS one of Disney's signature rides. If they can do it to something as important as HM, then they can do it to a tree.
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Yeah, changing an already Haunted themed attraction into Haunted Mansion/Nightmare Before Christmas doesn't actually take that much time to be honest. But the thing is, it's one SINGLE attraction. The Tree of Life is seen from everywhere in the park, hey, even OUT of the park. I sincerely hope they don't change the tree. If they do, it'll be a big **** let down.
 
^It does take a lot of time and this is why they cannot do it in Orlando. I cannot remember how long we were told on our tour but its weeks not days.

They will probably not change the tree there is no point, under the tree you find Its a Bugs Life so that will not fit.

The Avatar Land will not be anywhere near the tree as there is no room there, there is also no room at the back of the park due to the safari. They won't built the other side of Everest due to the no bothering to theme the mountain so I really think this is going near Camp Mickey to the left of the picture as there is loads of land there.

There is some land though 3/4 up on the right, I don't think anything is there tbh but its very close to the animals.

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Oh, and retheming a single attraction in a corner of the park for Christmas is NOT comparable.
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It is comparable because for one, its one of Disney's biggest attractions and two, the Holiday thing is a permanent fixture.
 
No it's not Erol. They only retheme it in California for the holiday period and then it is changed back. It is only a temporary fixture.
 
Sticking a few Nightmare characters in a ride for a few weeks, is not the same as themeing a central part of a park...

Just, shut up Erol.

(and it also happens in Tokyo, but, that's not really important. Or at least did)

[EDIT - Now now, no need to get agressive Ben - Mark :p]
 
Just to clarify for you Erol...

I know it is only wikipedia but everything written there matches what we were told on the Keys to the Kingdom tour.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haunted_Mansion_Holiday

The important bit said:
The Haunted Mansion typically closes for two and half weeks in September so it can be converted into the Haunted Mansion Holiday. The overlaid attraction is then open to guests from late-September through early-January, before being closed again during January so the overlay can be removed.
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It is NOT a permanent fixture :p
 
If they actually touched the Tree of Life it would be a travesty... It is one of my favourite theme park buildings and to change it to fit any IP would be stupid beyond comprehension... Comparing it to a holiday based temporary retheme is just plain wrong, because they aren't at all similar...


As for getting a B&M, don't Disney go towards Vekoma (in general) because that makes the ride system uber cheap, allowing more money for the theming/experience?
 
Ok, lets get this straight once and for all.

The Tree of Life is slap bang in the middle of the park. It is the signature icon of the park - think of it like the Sleeping Beauty/Cinderella castle of the Animal Kingdom. The structure was so well thought out and part of the parks identity that they actually purchased the frame of an oil rig in order to create the frame of it whilst also ensuring it could house the theatres for 'It's Tough To Be A Bug'. The trunk of the tree is carved with 100's of species of animal from Planet Earth. There is simply no way they are going to undo all of that work to fit in an IP. I really can not see why this is being debated. If it was for a 4D Cinema Attraction of Avatar then yeah, it could go in the theatres but it still wouldnt change the tree itself. This is for a whole land. Avatar land will be built elsewhere

And yes, Disney go for Vekoma for various projects and have a very long relationship with them. However, that doesn't mean it is the sole supplier. Disney have also worked with Intamin for instance.
 
^ I think Disney use Vekoma because Vekoma don't mind Disney altering the coaster (Don't know in which way) after its built.

Disney fell out with Intamin during the post-accident investigation in 2005 on California Screamin', Intamin revealed that while they had designed it, Disney Imagineering had sufficiently altered it and Intamin no longer consider it one of their coasters.

I can imagine B&M not wanting to work with Disney for this reason, they had a problem with IoA installing the launch on Hulk.
 
If they were to add a roller coaster, I can imagine it being themed to those weird dragon things :L
If they were to go for a less thrilling coaster, I could imagine an S&S FreeFly :)

And also, who's to say they won't add a 2nd tree?
 
coasterboy said:
If they were to add a roller coaster, I can imagine it being themed to those weird dragon things :L
If they were to go for a less thrilling coaster, I could imagine an S&S FreeFly :)

And also, who's to say they won't add a 2nd tree?
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Josh73 said:
Oh, yeah I can really Imagine a Freefly down there.
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See I don't think they would consider a rollercoaster for it to be honest, and I believe this is one of the reasons Disney have never gone to B&M. A rollercoaster is always very obviously a rollercoaster. No way to hide it.

Take a look at any major coaster built at a Disney park, disregarding the rollerskaters, each of them hides the fact that it is a rollercoaster. The indoor coasters hid the fact that they are rollercoasters by being in the dark, the Thunder Mountain/Everest/Matterhorn coasters are built into mountains to hide that they are coasters. Disney work harder than any other company in the industry to develop a rides 'story', which they don't want ruined by a huge "rollercoaster" going around a mountain.

The exception to this being California screaming.. But even then, a steel rollercoaster has been hidden away as a wooden one, that fits the wooden coasters built on Californian piers as per the theming of the area. The coaster is themed to be exactly that.. a coaster. Much in the same way that the Chester and Hester's Dinorama area of Animal Kingdom is themed to look 'cheap and tacky'.. Its all part of the storyline:

http://land.allears.net/blogs/jackspence/2009/08/chester_and_hesters_dinorama.html
When I first read this article it really gave me an appreciation of the lengths Disney go to, even when they "cheap out".

This is why we will never see a pure "rollercoaster" at a Disney park, such as a wingrider, because it'd be bloody hard to disguise it as anything other than what it really is. No, I think it'll be something else, something thats being planned as a part of the Imagineers new wave of technological advancements they are bringing out as part of their NextGen Initiative.. possibly something we've never seen before.

Posted over on Screamscape, the Avatar Land may have a budget of $500 MILLION, which is an astounding figure, an amount that could build FIVE Expedition Everests, and while the entire project is still very early in Blue Sky stages, could lead to something VERY interesting in my opinion.

Josh73 said:
Are they going to take anything out on AK?
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More likely than not, as people have mentioned before, the Camp Minnie Mickey area will be taken out for this to go in. It was the area designated for Beastly Kingdom, and as such, many of the buildings in the area were temporary ones, including the surprisingly successful Festival Of The Lion King theatre. It does make me wonder if this show will be re-homed or retired?
 
:shock: Wow... I can't even express how cool that sounds. I can't post much.. It's late an I have school tomorrow, but WOW...
 
^You know you could have just posted "That's really cool" without the explanation and saved us all time?

And that is really, really cool.

They should blates do it with dinosaurs instead though. Cause dinosaurs are cool.
 
^ Dinosaurs wouldn't work with the story of the dinosaur area.. the only "live" dinosaurs you see are in the Dinosaur ride, and only cuz you travel back in time to find em. So it'd be a bit strange to have Pterodactyls flying around, cuz the areas timeline is set in the present.
 
I think they ll build at least one big ticket attraction. They need to start boosting the parks attendance to compete with the Studio's and Epcot (it ll never come close to magic kingdom). Considering that the park only opened with the safari and the river rapids they ve done an amazing job on expanding it with major attractions (i.e. everest and dinosaur)

I hoping its a roller coaster but if it is it will defiantly be hidden away with tons of theming. If not a coaster then hopefully a simulator that could compete with the harry potter land in Island of Adventure. Its a smart move by Disney to get some movie rights in order to compete with Universal's new land.

As for location it is not doubt going in camp mickey as there is only one attraction located there at the moment (the loin king show) which could easily be moved to fit into the Africa themed area of the park.

Also the new land will probably have a new show to go with the theming and a handful of kiddie rides to complete the land. Its Diseny they won't mess this up
 
Look fun, at least. Even if it's never going to be built, it's a cool piece of "concepts that never came to be". Perhaps, in a few years, they will have stuff flying around, but I'd imagine that rather to be based on drones like the military use, rather than aircraft carrying a pilot. After all, you can skip some HSA stuff when nobody is up there in the plane.

Which, by the way, would be the most awesome job ever.
 
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