Walibi Holland | Lost Gravity | Mack Rides mega coaster
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oriolat2
Giga Poster
Re: Walibi Holland | Unknown | Mack (unknown)
Good call. I really want this to be a spinner, It would be wise to keep the trains locked during the fast-paced sections and unlock them for the final, more twisty elements.
And even if the coaster ends up not having a MCBR section, I think a park like Walibi Holland could do with a 2-train coaster just fine. After all, these Mack coasters are really easy to load, making for quick dispatches. I think that Alpina Blitz does well over 1,000 pph, so if this sat 12 riders per train, it could well be around 700 pph, which I guess is more that what Speed of Sound or Goliath do...
mouse said:
Good call. I really want this to be a spinner, It would be wise to keep the trains locked during the fast-paced sections and unlock them for the final, more twisty elements.
And even if the coaster ends up not having a MCBR section, I think a park like Walibi Holland could do with a 2-train coaster just fine. After all, these Mack coasters are really easy to load, making for quick dispatches. I think that Alpina Blitz does well over 1,000 pph, so if this sat 12 riders per train, it could well be around 700 pph, which I guess is more that what Speed of Sound or Goliath do...
Lofty
CF Legend
Re: Walibi Holland | Unknown | Mack (unknown)
I'm with you on this one, that MCBR will more than likely enable the spinning - in my eyes anyway.CoasterMac305 said:
Have you got concrete proof of this? I think a lot of judgement is coming from the 'small' transfer track, but we've not seen a really clear angle of this so can't say for definite. I'm thinking it may be a 2 car train in a configuration like the cars attached to Blue Fire, or we'll see a variant of CasterLab's 6 seater car with 2 cars.CoasterMac305 said:
Martyn B
CF Legend
Re: Walibi Holland | Unknown | Mack (unknown)
I think you lot could be right, just the other way around. The elements before the "MCBR" are larger and look more suited to spinning, where as after, there'll be 3 tight inversions. It just doesn't look like it'll be very enjoyable.
But what do I know, I'm just guessing.
I think you lot could be right, just the other way around. The elements before the "MCBR" are larger and look more suited to spinning, where as after, there'll be 3 tight inversions. It just doesn't look like it'll be very enjoyable.
But what do I know, I'm just guessing.
oriolat2
Giga Poster
Re: Walibi Holland | Unknown | Mack (unknown)
A single-car 4-seater model would just not be suitable at all, not even for a small park. If the supposed MCBR turns out to be a locking/unlocking mechanism, there would be room for just two cars, making for a total of 8 passengers, which is beyond ridiculous for such a coaster.
I bet Mack have come up with a smart solution to fit as many people as possible comfortably. And have you guys thought that the transfer track could be vertical, such as the one on the spinner at Le Twist at Pal or Dwervelwind at Toverland? This could fit a third train, besides the lateral transfer shed...
CoasterMac305 said:
A single-car 4-seater model would just not be suitable at all, not even for a small park. If the supposed MCBR turns out to be a locking/unlocking mechanism, there would be room for just two cars, making for a total of 8 passengers, which is beyond ridiculous for such a coaster.
I bet Mack have come up with a smart solution to fit as many people as possible comfortably. And have you guys thought that the transfer track could be vertical, such as the one on the spinner at Le Twist at Pal or Dwervelwind at Toverland? This could fit a third train, besides the lateral transfer shed...
Sneaky
Roller Poster
Re: Walibi Holland | Unknown | Mack (unknown)
Some aerial pictures of a few days ago.
Source: http://hollandluchtfoto.nl/gallery.php?mode=gallery&id=1&page=1
And a few pictures taken by Rogier de Groot.
MCBR:
Top of the lift:
(slightly) outside banked turn before the mcbr:
Turn after the Dive drop:
Which is followed by a Zero-G-Roll:
Another pic of the mcbr:
Some aerial pictures of a few days ago.
Source: http://hollandluchtfoto.nl/gallery.php?mode=gallery&id=1&page=1
And a few pictures taken by Rogier de Groot.
MCBR:
Top of the lift:
(slightly) outside banked turn before the mcbr:
Turn after the Dive drop:
Which is followed by a Zero-G-Roll:
Another pic of the mcbr:
Lofty
CF Legend
Re: Walibi Holland | Unknown | Mack (unknown)
You can sort of see the upcoming layout, then all of a sudden the exit of the banked tophat gets in the way and leaves me confused again. Just looking at the transfer track, I get it now, it does look small - but, it MIGHT just be able to fit a 2 car train on it dependant on the configuration of the wheel assembly underneath it.
You can sort of see the upcoming layout, then all of a sudden the exit of the banked tophat gets in the way and leaves me confused again. Just looking at the transfer track, I get it now, it does look small - but, it MIGHT just be able to fit a 2 car train on it dependant on the configuration of the wheel assembly underneath it.
mouse
Giga Poster
Re: Walibi Holland | Unknown | Mack (unknown)
Someone with physics knowledge call me out if its an invalid suggestion
Its a long shot, and I have little engineering or physics knowledge... but could that turn be slightly banked in order to reduce the amount of spinning before the MCBR or whatever it is?Sneaky said:(slightly) outside banked turn before the mcbr:
Someone with physics knowledge call me out if its an invalid suggestion
Re: Walibi Holland | Unknown | Mack (unknown)
It's so slightly banked it makes me wonder why they've even bothered.
This whole coaster is just so full of WHY, I love it.
The ride experience will either be amazing, or horrific. I don't think there's any way this will just be "meh".
It's so slightly banked it makes me wonder why they've even bothered.
This whole coaster is just so full of WHY, I love it.
The ride experience will either be amazing, or horrific. I don't think there's any way this will just be "meh".
Lofty
CF Legend
Re: Walibi Holland | Unknown | Mack (unknown)
Agreed. The banking is so minuscule, it's actually pointless. If they actively wanted to market an outwardly banked turn (which they clearly do) why wouldn't you actually bank it to an extent that people notice (yet again referencing Cobra's Curse)
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Agreed. The banking is so minuscule, it's actually pointless. If they actively wanted to market an outwardly banked turn (which they clearly do) why wouldn't you actually bank it to an extent that people notice (yet again referencing Cobra's Curse)
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Sneaky
Roller Poster
Re: Walibi Holland | Unknown | Mack (unknown)
A few NoLimits renderings by Tobi:
Source: Tobi over at coasterfriends.de
A few NoLimits renderings by Tobi:
Source: Tobi over at coasterfriends.de
Re: Walibi Holland | Lost Gravity | Mack (unknown)
On the subject of paint it annoys me how because they've painted the sections different colours rather than alternating at a set distance, the alteration is always uneven.
Like it should be a nice uniform 100ft yellow, 100ft black.
On the subject of paint it annoys me how because they've painted the sections different colours rather than alternating at a set distance, the alteration is always uneven.
Like it should be a nice uniform 100ft yellow, 100ft black.