Vekoma or getting hit by a car?
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jayjay
Giga Poster
Yes they do.Pieman said:Ben said:
It was a bit of an attempt at humor, Ben. I know every manufacturer makes at least one bad ride.
Or do they?
The Vekoma bashing thing is pointless and even the bad ones I still go on. Even if they are painful.
I don't get what this "perfection is heartless" thing is all about either. I would count a ride having character as part of perfection.
jayjay said:
Perfection is just so boring and tedius, and sometimes a bit nerdy.
Character and soul comes from other things. Look at cars, if you wanted a car full of soul and passion, you would buy an Alpha, even though they are rubbish, because they have soul, mostly down to them being rubbish. If you want a perfect car, you buy something like a Lexus. They are pretty perfect, but there is no soul or heart in them.
LiveForTheLaunch
CF Legend
I kind of get what Blaze is saying, but it's still not an excuse for Vekoma to be so crap. He's just saying that a perfect coaster with absolutely nothing wrong has no presonality, whereas something that maybe isn't the greatest thing ever like the Ultimate, or Beast for example, are still good rides because they're different..
Dunno though, that's just what I got from it.
Dunno though, that's just what I got from it.
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It does make sense. People buy cars like Alpha Romeos because they want to experience the soul and experience, knowing full well that most of the time the car will be awful. They buy them for the small amount of time everything is working well because then they are briliant. They have soul and personalities because of all of that.
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Yeah, I think you get what I mean, something perfect has no personality, it's just an emotionless lump of metal or wood, just a robot, while something which is not perfect, like the two you mentioned, has personality and are more human. It is not an excuse for rides to be crap, but sometimes rides which are not perfect are better than rides that are.
It does make sense. People buy cars like Alpha Romeos because they want to experience the soul and experience, knowing full well that most of the time the car will be awful. They buy them for the small amount of time everything is working well because then they are briliant. They have soul and personalities because of all of that.
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Yeah, I think you get what I mean, something perfect has no personality, it's just an emotionless lump of metal or wood, just a robot, while something which is not perfect, like the two you mentioned, has personality and are more human. It is not an excuse for rides to be crap, but sometimes rides which are not perfect are better than rides that are.
Slash
Giga Poster
Blaze said:
What the bloody hell are you on about. A bad ride is a bad ride, its not "character". Thats like saying if someone continually hits you thats just building character.... wait, thats what fathers say! You might be onto something!!!
No. You aren't cause thats all a bunch of crap what you just said.
I mean seriously if a ride is painful, its not "character" its just painful, just like a ride thats "perfect" can have character through themeing and what the ride feels like.
This has to be the feeblest attempt at why Vekoma's can be good ever.
AND I DON'T MIND VEKOMA!
Uncle Arly
Strata Poster
I don't think Blaze's example was the best, but I do get what he's saying.
And Slash, stop being so stupid. Every time I see you post it's saying that Blaze is terrible. It's not fair, it's harsh and if you keep carrying on..it'll border on bullying.
Sorry for modding.
Anyway, I think Vekoma are not that bad. Sure, they give some pain, but, they are still coasters, and for that, I love them.
And Slash, stop being so stupid. Every time I see you post it's saying that Blaze is terrible. It's not fair, it's harsh and if you keep carrying on..it'll border on bullying.
Sorry for modding.
Anyway, I think Vekoma are not that bad. Sure, they give some pain, but, they are still coasters, and for that, I love them.
Snoo
The Legend
^I do get what he was saying too, but that doesn't mean what he said is even close to correct or even an analogy which is comparable.
I'd agree on Slash being a bit overzealous, but for the most part, Blaze has been an ignorant/annoying fanboy.. defending his point with ever weaker evidence/analogies to try and prove his extremely weak point. On top of that, the fact he has only been on some of the best Vekomas reinforces that point.
In the old UC standard, if you have something to say, don't be a ****ing moron about it and spatter off meaningless points in an effort to try and back up what you say.. because you'll only look like more of a fool.
PS: I respect the fact he likes Vekoma, I've stated that before, I just hate everything else.. lol
I'd agree on Slash being a bit overzealous, but for the most part, Blaze has been an ignorant/annoying fanboy.. defending his point with ever weaker evidence/analogies to try and prove his extremely weak point. On top of that, the fact he has only been on some of the best Vekomas reinforces that point.
In the old UC standard, if you have something to say, don't be a ****ing moron about it and spatter off meaningless points in an effort to try and back up what you say.. because you'll only look like more of a fool.
PS: I respect the fact he likes Vekoma, I've stated that before, I just hate everything else.. lol
theRock-steel
Mega Poster
Of course we all "know" that some Vekoma's are good. Personally, I like Déjà Vu (SFOG), Batwing, Invertigo (KI), Expedition Everest, and Rock n' Roller Coaster (WDW). They are better than most of their flyers. Those are better than the SLC's. The best of those is Hangman. They are better than most boomerangs. The best of those is Sidewinder at Hershey. The worst for adults is Ninja at SFOG. Fortunately, I have not had to ride any other of their mutli-loops. By the way, Arrow and Schwarzkopf have some very painful rides in the name of GASM at SFGAV and Laser.
theRock-steel
Mega Poster
Of course we all "know" that some Vekoma's are good. Personally, I like Déjà Vu (SFOG), Batwing, Invertigo (KI), Expedition Everest, and Rock n' Roller Coaster (WDW). They are better than most of their flyers. Those are better than the SLC's. The best of those is Hangman. They are better than most boomerangs. The best of those is Sidewinder at Hershey. The worst for adults is Ninja at SFOG. Fortunately, I have not had to ride any other of their mutli-loops. By the way, Arrow and Schwarzkopf have some very painful rides in the name of GASM at SFGAV and Laser.
[ I'm sorry about the double. The first one said that it didn't post. ]
[ I'm sorry about the double. The first one said that it didn't post. ]
dj-fireball999
Mega Poster
SHOTGUN MARRYING BLAZE.
