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gavin

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OK so I attempted to watch The Witcher last year because it seems very much up my street (fantasy epic featuring Sexy_Man) but after two episodes I wasn't particularly enamoured. I've been seen though that they're filming season two and are once again using Sexy_Man to bait me, so I've decided to give it another go. So far so good.
Hated it.

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Anybody watching Loki?

S'alright. Not amazing, but alright. Personally I'm finding it mildly more enjoyable than both WandaVision and Falcon & Winter Soldier (in fact I never even bothered to finish F&WS) but I do have a feeling that as the series progresses it may start becoming a bit too surreal, confusing and, just like a lot of the recent Marvel output, just a little bit too 'woke'.

Woki, anyone?
 

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Anybody watching Loki?

S'alright. Not amazing, but alright. Personally I'm finding it mildly more enjoyable than both WandaVision and Falcon & Winter Soldier (in fact I never even bothered to finish F&WS) but I do have a feeling that as the series progresses it may start becoming a bit too surreal, confusing and, just like a lot of the recent Marvel output, just a little bit too 'woke'.

Woki, anyone?
Retaining judgement for the end of the series, but I’ve personally enjoyed the first three episodes. Definitely see the multiverse angle of Phase 4 continuing to expand. Agree it's better than Falcon & Winter Solider (alas, just didn't had a good, driving finish), but I was really bullish on Wandavision, completely loved the experimental nature of the miniseries. (Here's my MCU recent rankings if interested: https://coasterforce.com/forums/threads/ranking-the-mcu-so-far.42445/post-1108762)

Another series back after hiatus is Rick and Morty Season 5. It’s brilliantly written and completely hilarious. If you also need additional to reason to watch; ½ of the Community creative is also behind Rick and Morty (as I pitched to @Antinos tiday 😜).
 

davidm

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Loki (so far) is very good.
Wandavision was good, but got less good as it went on (still OK overall).
Falcon and Winter Whatsit ; was not good. At all.
 

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I do have a feeling that as the series progresses it may start becoming a bit too surreal, confusing and, just like a lot of the recent Marvel output, just a little bit too 'woke'.

Woki, anyone?

Yeah, I think that one of the things about the Disney + stuff (along with the Dave Filoni Star Wars stuff) is that they're really for deep fans, but are also trying to be popular at the same time - so they're struggling to keep the series' in both camps.

I loved WandaVision for the first few episodes. I thought the attention to detail, the way it was so lovingly produced, was fabulous. It was a slow burn, oddball distortion of reality. That then just became like an episode of "Agents of Shield" (not a good thing). It still had its moments, but it needed to be "a real program" in the end for pay-off for "everyone". It couldn't stick to the conviction of the early episodes, as it was just too "kookie".

F&WS was beset with issues due to Covid, but it wasn't put together well. Was it a tale of PTSD? A buddy series? A serious look at the undercurrent of the neglected in the world? It never really settled on what it was going to be about. Some blame is definitely on the production issues due to Covid, but not all of it.

And back to Loki and your point @Howie - Marvel Comics ARE surreal and confusing a huge amount of the time. It's only stuff written in the last 15 years or so that you would consider a straight story (told in a cinematic way) Both WandaVision and Loki are very true to the way the comics are presented- and yes - they will get very surreal and confusing. I worry that this will cause greater problems in the MCU as they go down the whole time-travel/multiverse road. It turns people off when things get all weird. People want to see a clear good guy defeating a clear bad guy in some kind of chase from start to finish.

The only show that I think has ever succeeded in doing it properly is Legion. That was completely out there, and stuck with being completely out there as its USP. It never pandered to traditional film-making and worked because of it (whether you liked it or not is a different matter, but it was consistent :D ).

Loki will get bizarre. It will make people think differently about the current MCU as it stands and what the MCU in the future is going to look like. It will continue to try and be a traditional show, whilst also being quirky and paying lip-service to deep fans.

Personally, I like them, but I've now read a ridiculous number of Marvel Comics from across the decades (I've subscribed to this for the last five years - https://hachettepartworks.com/en-en/marvel-ultimate-graphic-novels-collection-2016/).

So I like it all, but I'm reserved in it as they don't quite know how to settle down, and I'm concerned that it will affect the films franchises negatively.

The Star Wars stuff (anyone watch "The Bad Batch"?) is kind of a lot better, because you have one massive nerd running all the stuff outside of the films. There's complete consistency in terms of look, feel, theme, characters, etc. Almost a reverse of Marvel where the films are excellent and the TV ropey...
 
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DelPiero

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Who else has been watching The Boys?
Man, that it is one messed up TV show. Highlights so far from season 2 include the bit with the whale ? and the bit with the gills ??.
You'll know 'em when you see 'em. One more episode to go, not sure whether I'm looking forward to it or dreading it?

As Billy Butcher would say: "Fackin diabolical".
I just finished The Boys, holy crap that was a good show. So many WTF moments, absolutely loved it.
Yeah, the whale and the gills are big standouts, the trial was also brilliant, I also loved the episode in Sage Grove.
Season 1's highlight for me was the Dolphin.
Even though I'm not a "Deep" fan, his scenes are definitely up there.

Also - Shantel VanSanten, where the hell has she been all my life?
 

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I started watching Clarice thinking it would be a decent Silence of the Lambs spin-off like Hannibal.

Nope. It's just another paint-by-numbers American crime drama. "You're off the case" done to death s**te.
 

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Personally, I like them, but I've now read a ridiculous number of Marvel Comics from across the decades (I've subscribed to this for the last five years - https://hachettepartworks.com/en-en/marvel-ultimate-graphic-novels-collection-2016/).
Just had a look at the list of titles and noticed that Warlock is included. Did you get copies of these?

I loved them when I was a kid, especially the story in the first volume. The second volume features the origins of Thanos' obsession with the Infinity Stones (then called "soul gems").

Got quite excited when Warlock turned up in the post-credits scene in Guardians of the Galaxy 2, but it seems there's still no news of him turning up in a more prominent role in the MCU.
 

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Just had a look at the list of titles and noticed that Warlock is included. Did you get copies of these?

I loved them when I was a kid, especially the story in the first volume. The second volume features the origins of Thanos' obsession with the Infinity Stones (then called "soul gems").

Got quite excited when Warlock turned up in the post-credits scene in Guardians of the Galaxy 2, but it seems there's still no news of him turning up in a more prominent role in the MCU.
He’s likely to turn up I need GOTG3 whether that’s as an antagonist or just a hero. One thing to note there’s no Space/Cosmic until next year with Captain Marvel 2 which I’m doubtful he will be in.
 

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Just had a look at the list of titles and noticed that Warlock is included. Did you get copies of these?

I loved them when I was a kid, especially the story in the first volume. The second volume features the origins of Thanos' obsession with the Infinity Stones (then called "soul gems").

Got quite excited when Warlock turned up in the post-credits scene in Guardians of the Galaxy 2, but it seems there's still no news of him turning up in a more prominent role in the MCU.
I did, yeah. It was really interesting seeing this kind of nascent Marvel universe brimming with ideas that some writers then took and built the foundations (in the comics) of what is the MCU now. It was proper out there stuff though - a weird mix of sci-fi and fantasy melded together.

I kind of wasn't impressed with Loki in the end. I thought Alligator Loki did the heavy lifting in episode 5 and episode 6?

I was hoping for something more with Kang, but understand (having read it all :D ) why they didn't start with Kang the Conqueror. It was still a bit of a weak drop off, though. I watched the "Making of" on D+ and they said they wanted to turn the typical Marvel third act into something different. Instead of a massive climactic battle, some exposition. I can appreciate that, but...

The whole thing just then ended up stinking of an advert for "The Multiverse of Madness" phase 4. While you see Loki grow into the Loki we see in latter MCU films, Silvie just never grows or changes. It feels like her entire character revolves around the fact that she has to kick off "The Multiverse of Madness!!!". Does that play into the whole "predestination" thing? You could argue it, but her character was a bullet fired in episode 2 that was never going to do anything but hit its target in episode 6 - there was nothing that could change that, which makes it weak, as we never really got to see any reason she would. So yeah, then the whole series becomes a bit pointless as the path was laid out from the start.

It had some great moments, but Marvel are becoming the Stephen King of the cinematic world - they don't know how to end things.
 
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