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Six Flags Qiddiya | Saudi Arabia | Theme Park

spicy said:
That steep drop off the cliff top is going to be something special.

Does it crest the 600ft hill using only gravity? Or does it hit some LSMs to launch it along the way?
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It has an LSM boost on the way down the cliff. If I recall correctly there were also mounting points spotted on the camelback, these could be for either more LSMs or trimbrakes (or nothing at all, they might also just be there as a precaution)
 
Efteldingus said:
It has an LSM boost on the way down the cliff. If I recall correctly there were also mounting points spotted on the camelback, these could be for either more LSMs or trimbrakes (or nothing at all, they might also just be there as a precaution)
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Correcto - My honest fascination would be, should there ever be a valley or stall of the train at that top element... how LONG would response time to be get maintenance on-site? 😅
 
Hyde said:
Correcto - My honest fascination would be, should there ever be a valley or stall of the train at that top element... how LONG would response time to be get maintenance on-site? 😅
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The reason there isn't a block brake at the top of the cliff is completely due to response time. It would take about 20 minutes to get up there as they're have to go out to a main road, up the highway, and back to get to this point.

There will not be trims on the big hill. In the event of a valley before the big hill, there's a reverse launch up the cliff to get enough speed to clear the airtime hill. Definitely hoping for one of those when I ride!!
 
CedarPoint6 said:
There will not be trims on the big hill.
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Not trying to really argue, but there is definitely something on the ascent side of the Arch:
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Could be just a "we'll deliver it with them installed, just in case" scenario. We'll see. Genuinely insane that this thing is just a few track sections away from being complete.

And a brand new pic from ThemeparX:
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CedarPoint6 said:
The reason there isn't a block brake at the top of the cliff is completely due to response time. It would take about 20 minutes to get up there as they're have to go out to a main road, up the highway, and back to get to this point.

There will not be trims on the big hill. In the event of a valley before the big hill, there's a reverse launch up the cliff to get enough speed to clear the airtime hill. Definitely hoping for one of those when I ride!!
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If it’s going 155mph before the big hill, then (not accounting for friction or air resistance) it would still be going at about 90mph at the top of the hill, which seems way too fast. I would therefore imagine there will be some trims.
 
BenJacobs said:
If it’s going 155mph before the big hill, then (not accounting for friction or air resistance) it would still be going at about 90mph at the top of the hill, which seems way too fast. I would therefore imagine there will be some trims.
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But you're neglecting the two largest things slowing it down... like... eh?

By that maths, Kingda Ka would crest the hill at a little over 60mph. Air resistance and friction are doing nearly as much work in slowing the train down as the fact it's climbing the tower in the first place.

The air resistance and friction (air resistance is the more dominant) cannot simply be ignored.
 
I wonder if the little windshields make it more aerodynamic or add more drag than your average guest.

Almost seems like they'd want to have a bit of drag on this - maybe they'll tell everyone that you HAVE to put your hands up for the cliff plunge.
 
Hixee said:
But you're neglecting the two largest things slowing it down... like... eh?

By that maths, Kingda Ka would crest the hill at a little over 60mph. Air resistance and friction are doing nearly as much work in slowing the train down as the fact it's climbing the tower in the first place.

The air resistance and friction (air resistance is the more dominant) cannot simply be ignored.
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My understanding is that Kingda Ka in reality maxes out at about 120mph at the most (except maybe on very windy days). Not including friction or air resistance, and assuming the height difference between the end of the launch track and top of the top hat is 430ft, then it would be going at 39mph at the top.

I suppose the 155mph on Falcon’s Flight could also just not be real, or only go to that speed on windier days.
 
BenJacobs said:
My understanding is that Kingda Ka in reality maxes out at about 120mph at the most (except maybe on very windy days). Not including friction or air resistance, and assuming the height difference between the end of the launch track and top of the top hat is 430ft, then it would be going at 39mph at the top.

I suppose the 155mph on Falcon’s Flight could also just not be real, or only go to that speed on windier days.
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Okay sure - 39mph. I made sound rounding assumptions to do it quickly on my phone.

Point still stands - those coasters crawl over the top hats (or even roll back), so neglecting the air resistance and then trying to work out if they'll need trims is futile.
 
That pic shared by @MLDesigns is one of the things I am most concerned about regarding this ride...look at how dusty it is out there!

Other people itt have brought up the feasibility of having a ride such as this withstanding the test of time, and I just can't imagine how long this ride will last in that environment, and also the downtime that will probably occur because of that very dusty environment.

Surely the ride couldn't operate in those conditions, as someone who lives in a state with duststorms every so often...going such speeds through dust would be downright painful!
 
I see your point, but a low-res photo of a construction site probably isn't the best indication of how dusty it will be when the park is open.
 
It's almost like they put a windshield on the roller coaster trains for a reason! ;)

I wouldn't sweat the dust, as:
  1. It is, still, an active construction site, kicking up dust.
  2. There really isn't roving dunes of sand/wind streams of dust specs at constant flow across this part of the Middle East; yes sandstorms and windy days of sand can exist, but nothing a simple dusting of train can't tend to.
 
I know it's (hopefully) low, low chance - but man it'd suck to get valleyed at the top of that launch lift in the dip before you crest the cliff.
 
Matt N said:
Surely it isn’t much different to the UAE in terms of dust, and those coasters have lasted fine for up to 14 years so far in some cases?
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The UAE is on the coast, with prevailing winds from the sea. Riyadh is smack in the middle of the country, with the closest body of water being the Persian gulf 450 km away.
 
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