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Re: Parque de Atracciones de Madrid | Family coaster?

CoasterCrazy said:
But does an average family attraction like this really attract that many people opposed to a major coaster? Given, it will attract some people...

The GP are going to say...

"Did you know that they have a 200ft coaster in which you go upside down at the top (Abismo)? In addition, they have a pint - sized family coaster that looks quite fun..."

(In GP words)

Rather than being attracted to the family coaster. Do you get me?

Time to stop this arguing...


The name is: Tren de la Mina (If you don't know already)

Which means "mine train" in spanish. Fairly obvious, but decent name.
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Just let it go. You've kind of been proven wrong. It's an Attraction, leave it.

UC said:
TL;DR: CoasterCrazy is right in terms of the marketing power of big rides, but lofty is right in terms of how a proper balance is definitely needed, and rides like this are certainly justified.

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Family rides, unless they're massive/innovative/at Disney or whatever, never generally have the marketing power that large rides do, but it's something a successful park must always pay attention to.

If you let it go for too long (i.e. SFMM) you risk alienating a decent size of the market, as well as "training" your fan base to expect big rides every year (again, SFMM). It gets to the point where it isn't cost effective to add another major ride every year, but by not doing so, you lose a sizable chunk of your patrons.

Think of it this way - big rides are always going to attract the types that come to ride the new big ride, and don't care much about anything else. Families are going to visit no matter what because it's something to do with their families, and they don't care as much if something is new or not as long as everyone has fun. When you alienate the families, you're left with that "NEW OR NOTHING!" group, who simply won't visit as soon as your capital starts to dry up. Yes, there is that middle group that will visit occasionally regardless, do the big rides, and leave - but it's not usually large enough to support the justification of newer rides so often, which means your patronage slowly dies out.

This is why dedicated thrill parks tend to die out after a few years once they stop adding major attractions (SFMM, before their "clean-it-up" realization), and why family-based parks (such as those at WDW) can survive for many years despite barely changing at all. This becomes even more impressive when you consider that a large part of Disney's patronage are passholders, who have visited the same attractions for many, many years.

So yes, while bigger rides are easier to market, it's the family rides that tend to create the most repeat customers and maintain a park's patronage without having to expend a ton of money.
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Words of wisdom, hopeful you'll be able to stop this..
 
Re: Parque de Atracciones de Madrid | Family coaster?

According to a twitter message posted by PAM the coaster will be named TNT. Pretty basic but rather catchy at the same time...
 
Re: Parque de Atracciones de Madrid | Family coaster?

oriolat2 said:
According to a twitter message posted by PAM the coaster will be named TNT. Pretty basic but rather catchy at the same time...
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I actually like it! :--D
 
Yes, he's being sarcastic. I'd expect a post like that from other idiotic N00BZ, but tks isn't now of them ;)
 
Yesterday TNT opened to the public, just in time for Easter holidays... Man are these people from PAM fast at building rides... :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r82gZYm5fFE[/youtube]

IMO, it looks the best Gerstlauer of the bunch of family coasters (Duinrell's and Hansa's). I love the fast-paced layout and the little themeing touches (fake caves, tons of mist and old-looking station).
 
Fun..but a a little short.
But who really cares? Its a pint sized family coaster with some great theming! A great new addition to the park to really strengthen their line-up.
 
What worries me is that PAM won't make the effort to pull people as quickly as they could because their ops CBAed if the queue is completely full...
 
I think it looks like a fantastic little addition to the park. I really o love these little Family Coasters that are being added everywhere lately.
 
Yeah this looks like great fun. Love the little steam tunnels you go through. That queue looks way too excessive for a family coaster though, so bland too.
 
I just rode it today (little credit whore here). Quite fun and fast, it had a fast pace and didn't loose it's speed and was quite disorientating. Lovley addition!
 
^ I wouldn't call you a credit whore, it's a good looking coaster that i would have ridden too if i wasn't keeping a record :)

Also, good to hear your positive review of it!
 
^Well, all the way from Bristol to Madrid for a few hours lol.
Just a little side note, DO NOT ride it with glasses as they WILL get very misty/wet.
 
^ Haha, well, only for that coaster.
I may call you a credit whore then.

But take me with you next time your just making such 'swoop-trips' sounds like a lot of fun!
 
^They are good fun!
Just to add another point, it has a very big station building, which doesn't fit the area at all. The anti rollback system isn't as loud as I thought it would be, but it's quite weird.
 
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