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Gazza said:
Crazy idea, but why dont people just test such elements in No Limits? I'm pretty sure it couldn't be done, unless you use trim brakes the whole way around.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ZQ3v8Rd88[/youtube]

Please, observe vertical forces. A -2.0 spike is acceptable. With training, the body can withstand about -4.5g spikes.
 
^This.

Floorless spinning coaster. So more like a disk-o with the seats on the inside of the circle. Yeah, I got nothing.
 
With training, the body can withstand about -4.5g spikes.

A general rule of thumb : if your coaster has military training as a requirement, it's not usually going to happen.
 
Xpress said:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ZQ3v8Rd88[/youtube]

Please, observe vertical forces. A -2.0 spike is acceptable. With training, the body can withstand about -4.5g spikes.

I SAW IT GO RED YOU STUPID TWAAT BASKET!

Regardless of if it would be doable or not, the real question is more of 'will this be fun to ride or will I just be generally unhappy'.
 
Ben said:
With training, the body can withstand about -4.5g spikes.

A general rule of thumb : if your coaster has military training as a requirement, it's not usually going to happen.

Well no ****.. I was stating it. And no, was not talking about military training.
 
The key words here are "with training", something the average person won't have nor care about...

So yeah, impossible loop is currently impossible...
 
I rephrase my previous statement:

It was a mere 2 minutes of work. I don't know about you, but if a manufacturer WERE to design an element (any element, it doesn't have to be an inverted loop) then they wouldn't spend a mere 2 minutes on it. It'd be weeks of careful shaping work and force calculation. A -2.0 spike is acceptable. A -2.8 spike would be perfectly acceptable. Here is a graph from another website showing just how long negative forces can be sustained, granted the rider is restrained properly in accordance with safety specifications:

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-1.1 can be sustained for quite a lengthy amount of time. -2 can be sustained for up to 2 seconds.
 
^ With a "prone" restraint yes not a standard sit up like what's being discussed here.
I'm pretty sure that it's possible to make an outside loop on a flying coaster, sit down no...
 
I still like my idea of a stand up inverted. I think it would be good. It would have seating like the stand up floored on Apocolypse. It could be free swinging, like vampire. Although, I can see it in looping form.
 
loefet said:
^ With a "prone" restraint yes not a standard sit up like what's being discussed here.
I'm pretty sure that it's possible to make an outside loop on a flying coaster, sit down no...

Yeah, a flyer would be capable of utilizing the inverted loop relatively easily.

The standup invert would also pose an interesting equation.
 
Xpress said:
I rephrase my previous statement:

It was a mere 2 minutes of work. I don't know about you, but if a manufacturer WERE to design an element (any element, it doesn't have to be an inverted loop) then they wouldn't spend a mere 2 minutes on it. It'd be weeks of careful shaping work and force calculation. A -2.0 spike is acceptable. A -2.8 spike would be perfectly acceptable. Here is a graph from another website showing just how long negative forces can be sustained, granted the rider is restrained properly in accordance with safety specifications:

airtimegs.jpg


-1.1 can be sustained for quite a lengthy amount of time. -2 can be sustained for up to 2 seconds.

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I always liked the idea of a full circuit disk-o. Obviously it would be a pretty small or short track, and it would take alot of power just to get the disk/car thing up the first hill....

Still, it could be fun.
 
That Disc-o could be interesting to say the least. Granted the best you could do is a giant go gator layout if you put ride time and capacity into consideration.
 
Treeis said:
I always liked the idea of a full circuit disk-o. Obviously it would be a pretty small or short track, and it would take alot of power just to get the disk/car thing up the first hill....

Still, it could be fun.
Like this?
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(Pictures are the same as the ones from the "Wierd, Wacky & Strange Coaster Bits" topic)
 
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