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Pokemaniac said:
Thing is, if Parques Reunidos got to pick between a large B&M, or a small SBF Visa plus a large bonus to the owners in Madrid, there's no way in heck they'd ever choose the former. I can totally believe the rumours that RMC were involved but backed out, the reason being that the chain wasn't willing to pay that much once a final (and higher than initially assumed) cost estimate had been made.

For Kennywood, I either expect an unusually large ride for a manufacturer of minor coasters (Zierer, for instance), or something new from a manufacturer we haven't seen much of before. All jokes aside, I think this will be a pretty big coaster, but it won't be a top-shelf pick. Parques Reunidos has a proven history of investing rarely and investing little, so I doubt they'll go to B&M or even Intamin for this project. Could be Premier or Gerstlauer, but probably nothing more fancy than that.
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Where you you fit New Vekoma into that equation Pokemaniac? I'm not too sure what Vekoma's new stuff is costing but I feel like their willing to do that kind of ride people are imagining if we're guessing these numbers correctly.
 
Youngster Joey said:
Where you you fit New Vekoma into that equation Pokemaniac? I'm not too sure what Vekoma's new stuff is costing but I feel like their willing to do that kind of ride people are imagining if we're guessing these numbers correctly.
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It could be Vekoma too, I think. Due to the terrain it would have to be a custom design, which means a higher price tag than for an off-the-shelf design, and I'm not sure how Vekomas are priced in that respect. As evidenced by their work with Disney, Vekoma is very capable of delivering highly customized designs, but I don't know how expensive those designs tend to be. I would say they're an edge case, either just cheap enough or just too expensive for Parques Reunidos to go for.
 
Pokemaniac said:
Thing is, if Parques Reunidos got to pick between a large B&M, or a small SBF Visa plus a large bonus to the owners in Madrid, there's no way in heck they'd ever choose the former. I can totally believe the rumours that RMC were involved but backed out, the reason being that the chain wasn't willing to pay that much once a final (and higher than initially assumed) cost estimate had been made.

For Kennywood, I either expect an unusually large ride for a manufacturer of minor coasters (Zierer, for instance), or something new from a manufacturer we haven't seen much of before. All jokes aside, I think this will be a pretty big coaster, but it won't be a top-shelf pick. Parques Reunidos has a proven history of investing rarely and investing little, so I doubt they'll go to B&M or even Intamin for this project. Could be Premier or Gerstlauer, but probably nothing more fancy than that.
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Oh. If RMC were reportedly rejected due to cost, then B&M would definitely be rejected for cost.

On second thoughts, then, maybe a supersized Gerstlauer Infinity Coaster, like Gold Rush at Slagharen but much bigger and with an extra row on the train?
 
The current rumors are that the ride will feature a 220 ft tall lift into an over 300 ft drop into the ravine. The 2nd hill will be 197 ft tall and there will be 3 inversions.

And the real kicker is that it's built by S&S of all people.
 
Pear said:
And the real kicker is that it's built by S&S of all people.
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There are two key questions here:
  • What year will the ride eventually open?
  • How many times will it have to be retracked?
I'm going to guess 2027 for opening year and 5 retrackings! ;)
 
An S&S would be an interesting addition. Their launched coasters in China are excellent and the world needs more of those especially somewhere outside of Asia. They can invert (the new one at Window Of The World will sport Inversions and Sun Tzu basically has one)

However I'm keeping my mind open. The numbers revealed so far could be anything from an RMC to a Mack coaster like Flash. Interesting one to keep an eye on.
 
Id like to think(dream) that we are getting a 200+ ft Trex. Its going to be a tight fit for a standard size track to fit within the lagoon area. Although, I think a sneak peak at the prototype Trex track would have been leaked by now from RMC( as they did with raptor development.).

Therefore I think the know details are matching up with a Mack build... std chain lift. few inversions. avg length. I expect Kwood to put there own twist into the project that make it unique. If indeed a Mack, it'll be tough to outshine the new dble launched Mack down in Carolina(CopperheadStrike)
 
Correct. Thats what im talking about. You would think they might release a similar demo or at least word of it happening.
 
If it is a T Rex KW could have asked them not to put anything out about it. They are doing everything they can to keep this a secret. I’ve seen that they arent letting any of the contractors on the project to have anything on property with company names or logos. No trucks, no hard hats, no shirts. Nothing. I’d say though, they’re doing a masterful job here. Nobody really knows about this. They showed that slide at their event with pics on it that nobody can say for sure exactly what it means. Placed markers for footers then went back and wrote things like gotcha, wrong, and mistake on them. This scratch off ticket has everybody trying to figure out these numbers that in the end I don’t really think are stats for the ride. I think they’re numbers for things that really don’t matter but are what could be seen as numbers for height and stuff. I just can’t see them going through what they are to keep this secret then just give the numbers right out. I could be totally wrong about that though. Really looking forward to this though as I live 15 minutes from KW. Hell I work at the mill that is directly across from Phantoms Revenges second drop. So another coaster to stare at everyday is welcome to me.
 
Jstanich said:
If it is a T Rex KW could have asked them not to put anything out about it. They are doing everything they can to keep this a secret.
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Yeah, that's not how it works. If Trex track showed up at the RMC, nobody would say it's for Kennywood. The consensus would be they are working on the prototype and we will probably see one in about a year or two. The amount of Kennywood visitors who would pay attention to something in rural Idaho is less than half a percent.

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tomahawk said:
Yeah, that's not how it works. If Trex track showed up at the RMC, nobody would say it's for Kennywood. The consensus would be they are working on the prototype and we will probably see one in about a year or two. The amount of Kennywood visitors who would pay attention to something in rural Idaho is less than half a percent.

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Ya,fair enough. Good point
 
KwoodLifer said:
Correct. Thats what im talking about. You would think they might release a similar demo or at least word of it happening.
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No, I mean the track in the photo they tested was for the orange and teal coloured coaster built in their site. They won't need to do this for the T-Rex as they can do calculations for it based on that Raptor track prototype, meaning the likely won't tease it, as the park will likely want to keep it secret, if in the circumstance this does end up being an RMC T-Rex.
 
ATI said:
No, I mean the track in the photo they tested was for the orange and teal coloured coaster built in their site. They won't need to do this for the T-Rex as they can do calculations for it based on that Raptor track prototype, meaning the likely won't tease it, as the park will likely want to keep it secret, if in the circumstance this does end up being an RMC T-Rex.
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That. Was. Not. A. Tease. They were developed a prototype and made sure it was functional with their calculations.

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Yeah, that wasn't a tease of anything. It was a functioning prototype, as loads of other manufacturers have been doing for decades. The fact it was that colour was probably as much to do with getting a primer coat on for weather proofing as much as it was a coincidence with the RailBlazer colours.

The T-Rex will have different trains, which likely won't sit as close to the track as the Raptor trains, meaning RMC might want to knock up a prototype rather than just try to scale up their previous. They're similar track technologies, but there are lots of resulting things that they will want to review. You can almost guarantee that RMC will have a small section of track inside the workshop to test the wheel assemblies and things on.
 
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