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Felt bad for Alsono, he took a massive gamble obviously, but can you blame him? He held off Webber with the broken wing for a whole lap, so why not keep going?

Also, I feel for Webber. I like him, but I hate Red Bull. I said it ages ago, he needs to leave to gain the repspect he deserves.
 
Yeah, I hear ya but still gotta have some sense...your wing is dragging on the ground, with a wet track at the time and when the engineers say "come in" ya gotta bite the bullet and come in.

I like Webber too but what can you say? RBR is the best chance of success. It was like Rubens when asked wouldn't you rather be elsewhere and not be a #2? "Sure, but it's still better than being on any other team." Horner will have hell keeping this team from exploding.

Less exciting, will Mercedes cap their tension? Nico was pissed and if they race again in the future...could be tense. Brawn I expect will talk to them and get this ironed out.
 
Indeed but ya know, if they race each other again...and they have to make sure there is no even slight appearance of team orders.
But yeah, both drivers and Brawn are calmer than RBR, I'm sure it'll be fine.

What a season it'll be!
 
Absolutely great race today with several controversial events. Firstly, I think Ferrari should have brought Alonso in straight away. It's easy to say that in hindsight, but the engineers would have seen the damage and should have got it changed rather than trying to wait until the dry tyre period.

Hamilton going into the wrong pit was hilarious. Not really sure if Nico should have been held behind him though. At this point of the season, there is still a long way to go and lots of things are going to happen from now until the end of the season so they should have given him the chance to overtake and stay there.

The whole Red Bull situation was probably the most interesting part of the race. It's not very fair on Webber considering they were told to finish with him in front but one thing this race has shown is that team interests ruin the race in some respects. The fastest driver is not necessarily winning the race which isn't right in my opinion.
 
Great race this weekend and I really enjoyed watching it. So happy the Mercedes looks decent on track and have picked up some good points already - lets hope they don't die off in the second half of the season! As much as I loved seeing Lewis on the podium, it really should have gone to Nico. I'm not aware that Nico needed to do any fuel saving and could pass as he was clearly faster - Nico should not have been punished because Lewis drove too aggressively/got the strategy a bit wrong.

The RedBull drama was hilarious and really adds another dimension to the racing off-track. There is talk of Vettel getting a race suspension, but I doubt this will happen as RBR know it'll massively hamper their/his championship. Feel sorry for Webber and hope he decides to stick with the team with Vettel returning some favors later in the year!

A poor race for my team, with 2 drives retiring but still holding onto 2nd place. :)
 
Brawn had said Nico was short on fuel as well and would only have got a bit ahead before he had to slow down to Lewis pace.

Guess we will never know lol.
 
Loved it, but wish Nico would have pulled a Vettel and passed Lewis. And if Sutil did what he did a week ago, I would have really raked in the points. :wink: Don't know how long I'll have to wait for Timo to point though. :roll:
At least this week made up for the awful showing my Germans had in week one.
 
Still disgusted at Vettel. It's not that he did it, much more that he only passed because Webber had slowed down. Disgraceful.

Really annoyed that Red Bull have come up with nonsense that Webber has done it in the past. Silverstone 2011 Mark just showed he was quicker by feigning a pass and then backing off. Brazil 2012 Mark was passing a car and then let Vettel take when it was safe.
 
^ Agreed. Fantastic, thrilling race today.

Kimi was awesome, Fernando supreme and the Mercedes no better than they were this time last year.
 
I thought it was all to easy to pass with drs and then to easy to pass with new tyres etc. So yes was fun but so clear to see what was going to happen. It's just fake racing.

As soon as kimi stopped before Lewis it was clear he would be 2nd, merc messed that one up.

As Neal says merc are no better than last year and when mclaren sort their car out they will drop behind them. Lewis had no tyres left at the end of the race, they were destroyed.

Anyway looks like this tyre stuff will be sorted after the next race.

Edit.

No they are not sorting it out at all they are just giving extra tyres for teams to run new drivers for 30 mins on a Friday!

Today I watched the endurance race, why can these cars run flat out for 6 hours and an f1 car cannot go flat out at all apart from in quali. Stupid, no wonder why ms said it was no longer racing.
 
Today I watched the endurance race, why can these cars run flat out for 6 hours and an f1 car cannot go flat out at all apart from in quali.
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Endurance cars don't have massively advanced and technical aerodynamic design that makes overtaking impossible. From my limited viewing of motorsport, I've found that spectacle scales inversely with advanced car design (the most action packed series I've seen is the Ginetta Juniors from BTCC)

Neither does it have a gigantic international casual viewership that it has to appease. It's a shame that technical innovation, which is kind of F1's thing, makes it really crap as a spectator sport without resorting to artificial stuff (at least I get the impression from commenters that procession was the norm from the late 90s onwards*).

On a related note, I decided to start watching GP2 this year. It's awesome (because the cars are significantly crapper than F1 cars) and people should watch it.

*PS what happened in 2010? I only properly got into F1 then and it was an amazing season, despite being before all the rule changes. All the comments I've seen lament the loss of refuelling, but that seems to be the only thing that changed.
 
F1 2010 was the 2nd year of the current "technical" car-design rules. The only things that had changed from 2009 was the ban on refuelling and the removal of KERS for the year so that they could revise it due to the many, MANY problems it suffered.

It was Bridgestone's last year in F1 - this was the MAIN change. DRS and KERS were also introduced (and reintroduced) in 2011, adding synthetic passing aides, but it was Pirelli making quick to degrade tyres (tires for the cretins from across the Pond) that changed everything so much.

Bridgestone had created such AMAZING and durable tyres (tires) that it meant 1 stop was the standard. This resulted in car performance, and therefore manufacturer skill, being much more important. Nowadays it's all about tyre management and so any half decent car is now in with a shout of winning.

Upshot is, JayJay - for the purists who want to see the best teams and cars racing flat out to win, since 2011 it's been terrible; but as a spectacle it's (without question) AMAZING!

I see the pros and cons of both. It's still thrilling and intriguing. Plus I think previously "less important" members of teams have become more prominent because of a change in development focus. It's different, sure, but still F1.
 
Poor Webber! Dude is having quite a rough stretch.
Yeah, overall I wasn't real into this race, but the finale was great.
Oh and I'll take an Alonso Kimi 1-2 any day : D

Ferrari finally has a strong car. The field better watch themselves, Fernando is gunna be damn tough now.

Oh and while I love the idea of just taking all the reigns off and letting them go for it, I do understand it's about the team...and honestly having two number ones always leads to strife. You kinda need a 1-2, otherwise...well Webber/Vettel, Alonso/Hamilton, even a bit Hamilton/Button and the infamous Senna/Prost pretty much wanted to kill each other. Makes for great TV but I see why you kind of want a #2 driver that knows his place. Though I'd hate to be him haha
 
I'm actually looking forward to next year with the new cars and engines. F1 needs a shake up and next year it will have the biggest changes probably since 1989.

Don't get me wrong I do enjoy some of the fake action. But come on when Alonso, lewis and kimi were coming back through the field they were just driving round people. That was not racing at all.

And then Vettel was able to close a 12 second gap in 3 laps because he did not bother with Q3. It's not right and something needs to change for Q3. Yes it provided action and its part of F1 but I just don't agree with sitting out Q3. You should need to be within 107% in each session and if you sit out Q3 then you should start on Q2 tyres.

There was probably only 1 driver who drove at 100% on Sunday, and that was Vettel for 4 laps at the end. He was lapping 3 to 4 seconds than the cars ahead. It was great to see a car being driven like that, being slide around etc. just a shame it took 90 mins to see proper action.

Jayjay my point is F1 used to be about driving as fast as you can, endurance used to be about looking after the cars and tyres. Now this had changed and there was far more action in the endurance race at Silverstone than the F1 race. It's hard to explain what I mean tbh.

I am so glad Kimi came back to F1 and I really hope he does go to rbr just to kick Vettels bum. Kimi is one of the most naturally talented drivers to ever sit in an F1 car, he's never really had the best car on the grid like some of the others have had yet he gets results even with bits missing off it.

Gp2 is good but it's no where near as good as it was in 2006, 2007, 2008.
 
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