Cinecitta World, Italy | Altair | Intamin 10 inversions
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Screaming Coasters
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Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
^ Hang on... What??
Inatmin Ride Trade and Intamin are two separate entities?
I don't get it...
I just wanna see an article or a product press release where it states that they were designed by someone else.
^ Hang on... What??
Inatmin Ride Trade and Intamin are two separate entities?
I don't get it...
I just wanna see an article or a product press release where it states that they were designed by someone else.
BBH
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Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
There's Intamin AG, which is a huge company that is split into two divisions - Intamin Amusements and Intamin Transport. Intamin Transport makes monorails for different cities, and Intamin Amusements is split into different subdivisions. There is Intamin Europe, which is responsible for all European transactions (obviously). There's Intamin North America, which handles transactions across the United States, Mexico, and Canada. Intaride is a separate division of Intamin which works mostly with Intamin North America to design roller coasters.Screaming Coasters said:
Screaming Coasters
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Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
Ok thanks for the explanation - now I'm gonna ask:
Why do they not share the same technology in that case?
Ok thanks for the explanation - now I'm gonna ask:
Why do they not share the same technology in that case?
_koppen
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Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
They do with everything. There's no real explanation to why they developed two different restraints like here.
Intaride shipped theirs to Hershey, and Intamin shipped theirs to Hopi Hari, both in late 2011.
Screaming Coasters said:
They do with everything. There's no real explanation to why they developed two different restraints like here.
Intaride shipped theirs to Hershey, and Intamin shipped theirs to Hopi Hari, both in late 2011.
BBH
Giga Poster
Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
Maverick's technology (which was developed by Intaride) would have been mirrored on a similar coaster built by Intamin. It's just that the restraints and ride design are different between Intaride and Intamin Amusements, which are somewhat separately functioning design firms.
Maverick's technology (which was developed by Intaride) would have been mirrored on a similar coaster built by Intamin. It's just that the restraints and ride design are different between Intaride and Intamin Amusements, which are somewhat separately functioning design firms.
Screaming Coasters
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Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
Thats a bit odd...
Is there a reason for this setup other than a continental thing? I don't get why they don't just use one team of developers for the technology, but then use two different sets of designers for different continents.
Cool, I learnt something new. Thanks everyone
Thats a bit odd...
Is there a reason for this setup other than a continental thing? I don't get why they don't just use one team of developers for the technology, but then use two different sets of designers for different continents.
Cool, I learnt something new. Thanks everyone
Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
I would have thought that they would share technology between companies in a "group", unless there is a good reason.
The fact the Skyrush restraints/seats were pretty much a failure* probably prompted a redesign. We still see other common Intamin designs in place worldwide (like the neck chopping OTSR)...
*Okay, riders could sit in the seats and they didn't fall out, so it wasn't a failure as that's what the design specification was, but beyond that scope
I would have thought that they would share technology between companies in a "group", unless there is a good reason.
The fact the Skyrush restraints/seats were pretty much a failure* probably prompted a redesign. We still see other common Intamin designs in place worldwide (like the neck chopping OTSR)...
*Okay, riders could sit in the seats and they didn't fall out, so it wasn't a failure as that's what the design specification was, but beyond that scope
Screaming Coasters
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Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
^ Yeah, thats what I thought the setup would be too. I mean, why would the same company design two separate things? It seems a bit dumb and financially unviable..
EDIT:
I've just researched and IntaRide, or as we commonly know it, Intamin Ride Trade. IntaRide is just a broker and constructer that carries the Inatmin AG brand. The technology still comes from the Swiss plant and the other subdivisions facilitate the manufacturing.
Vekoma also do this and so do B&M and I imagine that a lot of mainstream manufacturers do this. Engineer in one place and facilitate at the others.
^ Yeah, thats what I thought the setup would be too. I mean, why would the same company design two separate things? It seems a bit dumb and financially unviable..
EDIT:
I've just researched and IntaRide, or as we commonly know it, Intamin Ride Trade. IntaRide is just a broker and constructer that carries the Inatmin AG brand. The technology still comes from the Swiss plant and the other subdivisions facilitate the manufacturing.
Vekoma also do this and so do B&M and I imagine that a lot of mainstream manufacturers do this. Engineer in one place and facilitate at the others.
_koppen
Hyper Poster
Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
As I said it's not a redesign, they were both developed at the same time.
I'm not sure how you mean, but as I said it is two different offices.
Intaride in Maryland, US (headed by Sandor Kernacs) designs and calculate all the rides going to the states. They were for an example the ones who developed the hydraulic launch, and then the European office (headed by Sascha Czibulka) have sold it over in Europe using the same design, where they however designed the rides who use it.
Zacspin is a development from the European office, and the US office have used the same technology and sold it for SFMM.
They have a few different factories (in Europe) that they outsource manufacturing to, depending on where it is most favorable to manufacture at the time.
furie said:
As I said it's not a redesign, they were both developed at the same time.
Screaming Coasters said:
I'm not sure how you mean, but as I said it is two different offices.
Intaride in Maryland, US (headed by Sandor Kernacs) designs and calculate all the rides going to the states. They were for an example the ones who developed the hydraulic launch, and then the European office (headed by Sascha Czibulka) have sold it over in Europe using the same design, where they however designed the rides who use it.
Zacspin is a development from the European office, and the US office have used the same technology and sold it for SFMM.
They have a few different factories (in Europe) that they outsource manufacturing to, depending on where it is most favorable to manufacture at the time.
Screaming Coasters
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Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
My head has exploded.. lol
My head has exploded.. lol
rollermonkey
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Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
Intamin has always worked this way. It's operated more like a brokerage. Many/most of Intamin's rides are designed and manufactured by different companies. This is largely how Giavanola and M&V, and to some extent B&M were able to open up and immediately make and sell large coasters.
They were already doing it, and Intamin just sold the earlier products under that name.
Intamin has always worked this way. It's operated more like a brokerage. Many/most of Intamin's rides are designed and manufactured by different companies. This is largely how Giavanola and M&V, and to some extent B&M were able to open up and immediately make and sell large coasters.
They were already doing it, and Intamin just sold the earlier products under that name.
rollermonkey
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Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
Because this way they can sell a large variety of rides?
The sub-companies are exposed to less financial risk?
There's plenty of reasons.
Because this way they can sell a large variety of rides?
The sub-companies are exposed to less financial risk?
There's plenty of reasons.
Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
It's not that strange in general (while each firm is individually owned and run, they can still work together). However, it does seem strange to have R&D working on the same thing at different ends.
It does explain a lot of the inconsistencies though
spicy said:
It's not that strange in general (while each firm is individually owned and run, they can still work together). However, it does seem strange to have R&D working on the same thing at different ends.
It does explain a lot of the inconsistencies though
TheCoasterCruiser
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Re: Cinecitta World, Italy | Unknown | Intamin 10 inversions
They're testing and it looks brilliant.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6cDqkPN9A4#t=115[/youtube]
They're testing and it looks brilliant.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6cDqkPN9A4#t=115[/youtube]
