Alton Towers | The Smiler | Gerstlauer Infinity
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Nemesis of oblivion
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Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
Looks amazing. Liking the greenery, makes it fit in better.
Looks amazing. Liking the greenery, makes it fit in better.
ATTACKHAMMER
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Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
The pov of it looks awesome I can't wait to ride the beast!
The pov of it looks awesome I can't wait to ride the beast!
sparky2u
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Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
Can't wait to ride it next month, hope the drop out the station will be in darkness to get the full "strobe" effect, they need to speed the lift hills up, the vertical is faster than the inclined one.. :--D
I wonder how people are going to cope with 14 inversions, the staff may give out "sick" bags for those who eaten before riding.
Can't wait to ride it next month, hope the drop out the station will be in darkness to get the full "strobe" effect, they need to speed the lift hills up, the vertical is faster than the inclined one.. :--D
I wonder how people are going to cope with 14 inversions, the staff may give out "sick" bags for those who eaten before riding.
The Grape Wizard
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Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
The indoor section looks to be the best in my opinion, I just hope the outside section is forceful. Plus, airtime hills <3
The indoor section looks to be the best in my opinion, I just hope the outside section is forceful. Plus, airtime hills <3
Lofty
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Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
^^ That's not gonna happen. If people have ate before riding, that's their faults. Not to mention the fact that they'll more than likely be queueing around for around 1-2hours before riding. Ha.
^ Really? A curved drop and a cork/inline is better than the WHOLE coaster? Just, no.
^^ That's not gonna happen. If people have ate before riding, that's their faults. Not to mention the fact that they'll more than likely be queueing around for around 1-2hours before riding. Ha.
^ Really? A curved drop and a cork/inline is better than the WHOLE coaster? Just, no.
FaceYourNemesis
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Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
Some might consider the long pause before the second lift hill a blessingsparky2u said:
Nemesis of oblivion
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Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
This is one of the few times we've had a Pov and everyone is critizing how bland and slow it looks :wink:
This is one of the few times we've had a Pov and everyone is critizing how bland and slow it looks :wink:
Crazycoaster
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Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
As much as I love the look of this ride, I've got to admit some of the transitions and banking flows, especially in the second half look really bad. I tend to notice this stuff through working with No Limits, as it's hugely important to create a smooth ride.
For example, the banking flow of the second 'first drop's inline seems to twist 3/4ths of the way in one go, and then the final 1/4th as a separate. And there seems to be a jerky flow to the banking of both the Sea Serpent Roll and the second half of the Cobra. This unnatural flow of banking is usually what creates jerking and headbangs.
I guess I'll just have to see what it rides like, but from the looks of the pov, those parts are gunna be jerky..
As much as I love the look of this ride, I've got to admit some of the transitions and banking flows, especially in the second half look really bad. I tend to notice this stuff through working with No Limits, as it's hugely important to create a smooth ride.
For example, the banking flow of the second 'first drop's inline seems to twist 3/4ths of the way in one go, and then the final 1/4th as a separate. And there seems to be a jerky flow to the banking of both the Sea Serpent Roll and the second half of the Cobra. This unnatural flow of banking is usually what creates jerking and headbangs.
I guess I'll just have to see what it rides like, but from the looks of the pov, those parts are gunna be jerky..
SaiyanHajime
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Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
God. Enthusiasts thinking they know more than professionals. How annoying!
But, seriously... Is there any good reason why rides are built that are jerky? Is it literally that it's been designed poorly, the translation from plans to reality or is there a reason for those design choices?
God. Enthusiasts thinking they know more than professionals. How annoying!
But, seriously... Is there any good reason why rides are built that are jerky? Is it literally that it's been designed poorly, the translation from plans to reality or is there a reason for those design choices?
Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
In a roundabout way, it's a bit of a con to call it the first rollercoaster with 14 inversions. If it were a true rollercoaster, it would have one lift hill and coast to the brake run without the need of a second lift hill. It's a conjoined coaster.
If this were at Flamingoland, Lightwater, Fantasy Island...anywhere except Alton and Thorpe, I think people wouldn't be creaming themselves over it and would be more critical.
Strip away the hype and you're left with two coasters bolted together that is manufactured by a company we all criticise for making rough coasters.
However, the same can be said about The Ultimate and The Vampire, both of which are generally well received.
I wouldn't say it looks like a typical Gerstlauer, it's more like two typical Gerstlauers bolted together. Although it is one rollercoaster, the flow is fully disturbed by the second lift hill - just like The Ultimate and The Vampire.Ben said:
In a roundabout way, it's a bit of a con to call it the first rollercoaster with 14 inversions. If it were a true rollercoaster, it would have one lift hill and coast to the brake run without the need of a second lift hill. It's a conjoined coaster.
If this were at Flamingoland, Lightwater, Fantasy Island...anywhere except Alton and Thorpe, I think people wouldn't be creaming themselves over it and would be more critical.
Strip away the hype and you're left with two coasters bolted together that is manufactured by a company we all criticise for making rough coasters.
However, the same can be said about The Ultimate and The Vampire, both of which are generally well received.
nealbie
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Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
Are people creaming themselves though? I mean, apart from the usual Alton fangirls (but that can't be helped) all I've seen is realist reception. The odd bit of excitement about mud and footers, but nothing out of the ordinary.
I do agree about the two lift hills thing though. That's kinda cheating. Soon we'll be getting mine trains on steroids with 20 inversions! :lol:
Are people creaming themselves though? I mean, apart from the usual Alton fangirls (but that can't be helped) all I've seen is realist reception. The odd bit of excitement about mud and footers, but nothing out of the ordinary.
I do agree about the two lift hills thing though. That's kinda cheating. Soon we'll be getting mine trains on steroids with 20 inversions! :lol:
Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
I think it looks like it'll be a solid addition to the Towers. Plenty of forces and head choppers all round.
One thing to remember when watching that POV is its a helmet mounted camera so the jerkiness is not due to dodgy transitions or bad track joints its purely because the chaps neck is succumbing to the G-forces that its being bombarded with.
I'm just waiting till I see the POV from the GoPro mounted on the front handrail.
I think it looks like it'll be a solid addition to the Towers. Plenty of forces and head choppers all round.
One thing to remember when watching that POV is its a helmet mounted camera so the jerkiness is not due to dodgy transitions or bad track joints its purely because the chaps neck is succumbing to the G-forces that its being bombarded with.
I'm just waiting till I see the POV from the GoPro mounted on the front handrail.
Lofty
CF Legend
Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
^ Actually, sometimes the mounted POV's are far worse. They rattle like hell, even on the smoother coasters out there.
I can't agree with Ian more. It really does look like a coaster of two halves. Best coaster in the UK? Doubtful. Best in the world? (As some Towers Fangirls (thanks Neal ) describe it) far from it!!
^ Actually, sometimes the mounted POV's are far worse. They rattle like hell, even on the smoother coasters out there.
I can't agree with Ian more. It really does look like a coaster of two halves. Best coaster in the UK? Doubtful. Best in the world? (As some Towers Fangirls (thanks Neal
) describe it) far from it!!
Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
I think the actual ride is less important than what it stands for - which is what I've always said.
It's a fantastic installation at Alton, and it's a record that it will probably hold for a long time. It's really, really important - a record breaking pure thrill ride in a place that 2 years ago would have seemed impossible.
So it's incredibly exciting as a new ride for Alton, I'd say as important as Nemesis was for Alton and Colossus for Thorpe.
However, I suspect it will be like Colossus with a real split of opinions with most people thinking those who like it as a bit wrong in the head :lol:
I think the actual ride is less important than what it stands for - which is what I've always said.
It's a fantastic installation at Alton, and it's a record that it will probably hold for a long time. It's really, really important - a record breaking pure thrill ride in a place that 2 years ago would have seemed impossible.
So it's incredibly exciting as a new ride for Alton, I'd say as important as Nemesis was for Alton and Colossus for Thorpe.
However, I suspect it will be like Colossus with a real split of opinions with most people thinking those who like it as a bit wrong in the head :lol:
FaceYourNemesis
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Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1
^Agreed! The fact is that Alton desperately needed another top quality inverting coaster. This is a brilliant investment for the park.
^Agreed! The fact is that Alton desperately needed another top quality inverting coaster. This is a brilliant investment for the park.
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