HAJiME said:
However, going back to the last page, the one source Joey posted was incorrect about white-outs.
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Blah blah blah, those websites where written by professionals and they are wrong, blah blah, i'm onyl 15 and yet i know everything, blaaah..."
Don't you realise
why the website is wrong? They said "white-outs" are the exact opposite of black-outs. Black-outs occur during times of high positive g-force. That would mean, in that website's description, that white-outs occur during times of high negative g-forces. Now, you yourself stated in this very topic that the sensation ceased to exist as the train started to enter the zero-g roll. Because there is no area in a vertical loop where negative g-forces occur, that site is clearly wrong, or at least is wrong by your white-out experience.
The following pictures come from the professionally-created coaster "Montu" in NoLimits, created by Ole Lange himself. The photos are from 5 points in the vertical loop. Please note the vertical g-forces in each five points of the loop:
Going into loop: +4.9g
Reaching vertical angle in loop (90 degrees): +3.9g
At point of inversion in loop (180 degrees): +1.5g
Reaching 2nd vertical angle in loop (90 degrees): +1.9g
Coming out of vertical loop: +4.2g
As you can see, the lowest point of g force in the vertical loop, or in any vertical loop, is when the train is inverted. If the train was parked at a halt at the apex of the loop, although upside-down; the g force of the train would be 1g. However, because the train needs velocity to make it around the loop without stopping at the apex or rolling back; the force exerted upon the riders will always be somewhere above 1g; depending on the speed of the train. As the speed of the train increases, the g force exerted upon the riders in the loop also increases.
However, you did not say exactly where between the train leaving the lift hill and entering the zero-g roll you experienced the white out, so there's one more thing to analyze.
After reaching the top of the lift hill, Nemesis: Inferno goes down what is defined as a "drop". A drop is defined as any decrease in elevation made by an object. If Nemesis: Inferno had a perfectly vertical (90-degree) drop, and friction were no factor; riders on Nemesis: Inferno would experience a g force of zero, which is the minimum g force that it is possible to create during any type of freefall. If you are experiencing 0 g's; your blood would neither be forced up nor down, because there would be no force on it at all.
The human body, however, cannot survive during prolonged periods of time at zero g's, because zero g's make it difficult for diffusion and active transport between cells to take place, upsetting homeostasis. This is the reason people that travel into Space have to wear protective clothing. However, problems with this condition cannot happen during a time of zero g's on a coaster, because it takes at least a few hours before it starts to negatively effect the human body at all.
However, because Nemesis: Inferno's drop is not perfectly vertical, and because friction exists on earth, riders experience at least some positive g force on all drops.
And, as you know, after the dive drop, the train on Nemesis: Inferno enters the vertical loop, which forces have already been explained above. Then, the zero-g roll immediately follows the vertical loop, which is where you mentioned previously that the sensation of "white-out" ceased.
So, as you can now see, there is no instance of negative g-force at any time between the time the train comes off the lift hill, and the time the train is about to enter the zero-g roll. Therefore, in your explanation of your white-out experience, the site which you provided a link to has an incorrect definition of white-out, at least in your case.
HAJiME said:
Paul said:
While I did notice that a few British sites claim Nemesis to pull 4 g's, rcdb and a few more reliable sites say both 3 g's and 3.5 g's...so I'll go with rcdb, as I know it to be the most accurate.
And the sites i look at are 100% correct! Blaaah! Because they told me so! Yours are wrong and mine are right.. blah blah blah."
Are you that f*ckin' stoopid?! SERIOUSLY!?
Yeah, the sites i find are automatically talking bullsh*t, but the ones you look at are all 100% accurate! Yeah, ok... whatever.
Paul said:
Wait, wait... "British" sites?
Actually, it makes perfect sense that I went to British sites to check the g force of Nemesis, because I'm not sure if you realize this, but Nemesis can be found in Great Britain. I'm not saying just British sites are wrong, because even Towers Times; the unofficial guide to Alton Towers, lists Nemesis as having 3.5 g's. CoasterForce lists Nemesis as having 4 g's, and rcdb lists Nemesis as having 3 g's. However, I said 3 g's in my post because I checked rcdb ahead of time. If you haven't heard of it, I recommend you check the site out.
Here is a link to rcdb. I think that the majority of enthusiasts both on this site and others would consider rcdb to be one of the most accurate resorces for roller coasters available. Therefore, I find it acceptable that I posted 3 g's after checking an extremely reliable source.
Oh and to answer your question, I'm don't think I'm f*ckin "stoopid", because I picked up my dictionary just now, and failed to find a word called "stoopid" in the English language. Did you perhaps spell that word incorrectly? If so, please look up and post the correct spelling, and I will search for the definition, and inform you whether I attain to the definition of the word or not.
However, I will also say that the British do many, many things right. William Shakespeare was one of the greatest writers to ever exist, and he was British. Great Britain is also one of the most powerful nations of the world. I never said anywhere that Americans were better at anything than Britons.
Now, please feel free to bash and question parts of this post you'd like an explanation to, as I know you will. Also rest assured that I will gladly answer any questions you have, give more proof of anything if you'd like it, or correct anything you say that is wrong.
Oh, and in closing; my penis
is bigger than yours.
