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2012Jarrett said:
I could be wrong, but I really don't think that Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey is a robocoaster. I always saw it as a Spiderman-esque dark ride but with an inverted ride system. Could be wrong, though.

Harry Potter uses the Kuka robotic arms just like the RCT3 coaster, but it is technically not a roller coaster as it is on a completely controlled track. It's not inverted; the arm is supported by the track beneath.
 
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Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey is a Kuka arm on a dark ride track. I cant remember the exact size, but when I saw the "storage shed" the arm could stretch to about 20 feet tall.

There is also a Kuka arm ride at EPCOT, Sum of All Thrills.

I do not expect this to be a Kuka arm. My guess is this is a "traditional" coaster with multiple track switches.

I also do not expect this one ride to cost $1,000,000,000. I would expect Harry Potter phase 2 (new coaster, train ride, etc...) to be in the neighborhood of $500,000,000. That is a lot of butter beer.
 
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Ran into UO last night. Have a few pics of the construction, both IOA and USF side.

Old Jaws ride side first



Close up of train station:



From Simpsons side of lagoon to put the size into perspective







And one from the IOA side. This one is a little more off the path, not as photogenic:



 
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Could this be for Gringotts?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r56nK9PwtEo[/youtube]

Perhaps. Not fully convinced though.
 
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This looks fantastic, and surely the dragon in the animation hints at it being for Gringotts? It looks like a perfect combination of Thirteen, The Mummy and Everest. Although, if this is for Gringotts I'm very surprised Universal let them release this...
 
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Great looking ride. Only a hand full of parks could pull this off and Universal is definitely one of them, but I wouldn't be surprised if Disney would be the first to give it a go. Hope I'm wrong and this is what Universal plans on using.
 
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Very cool concept. Could lead to great rides down the road if the transitions don't suck.

Casio said:
Although, if this is for Gringotts I'm very surprised Universal let them release this...

I would think they'd have the right to release their own concept video. Also it could be the same ride type but rather varied from the video.
 
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Youngster Joey said:
I would think they'd have the right to release their own concept video. Also it could be the same ride type but rather varied from the video.

Of course, I just would've thought since Universal have released nothing offical yet they would've sworn Dynamic Attractions to secrecy as a condition of contracting them
 
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It probably is the new Potter one.

It's meant to go backwards, forwards, sideways and drop.
 
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One thing I noticed though...

On the tilt switch track (with the dome screen), the car starts rolling backwards before the track had re-joined again. Is this just a small inaccurate detail on the video then? Because if the track tilts back, stops, and THEN the car is released, the short pause would ruin the effect.

The only explanation I can come up with is that the moving track has loads of brakes on it, and as the car rolls back, the end of the switch track would have joined just afterwards, and brakes would suddenly kick in if the track hasn't re-joined properly? That was the car could stop on an angle, to prevent derailing.

Would that even be possible?
 
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I can't say much but what I will say is it doesnt go backwards and 40 degree tilt track ;)

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Ready_23 said:
I can't say much but what I will say is it doesnt go backwards and 40 degree tilt track ;)

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Can you please enlighten us on your qualifications that allow you to make such statements, especially regarding a ride that a vast majority of us know virtually nothing about? Do you have some form of "affiliation" with the park and the manufacturer(s) or designer(s)? Have you laid eyes on final plans for the ride?

Even if you are associated with the project in some fashion, whether directly or otherwise, please let us know of your ability to say such things regarding a project that has been kept under intensive wraps.
 
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Wow. Wish they could put a ride like that in at a regional park. too bad it probably won't happen. But that definitely is a cool concept of a ride. Hope its true. But I will say that it almost seems too mummy like. Its too bad that Universal doesn't fill that coaster gap of the type of coaster that they're missing, and instead they're adding a coaster that is similar in certain ways to a coaster that they already have. That being said, If this is the correct layout, then I do like it more than the mummy coaster.
 
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BBH said:
Ready_23 said:
I can't say much but what I will say is it doesnt go backwards and 40 degree tilt track ;)

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Can you please enlighten us on your qualifications that allow you to make such statements, especially regarding a ride that a vast majority of us know virtually nothing about? Do you have some form of "affiliation" with the park and the manufacturer(s) or designer(s)? Have you laid eyes on final plans for the ride?

Even if you are associated with the project in some fashion, whether directly or otherwise, please let us know of your ability to say such things regarding a project that has been kept under intensive wraps.

I have no affiliation with the park although I have seen a description of the ride which is available on the Internet and then also seen documents that back the description up.

If I get permission from the staff on here I will post the description because I dont want to be breaking any rules.

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The description doesn't prove or disprove anything. The only thing the video I posted misses out, is the scene at the start (where the front car tilts forward, and the back car rises and also tilts, they then drop into tunnels). This idea could have been scrapped anyway, or it may have just been an initial idea from the park.

Ready_23, don't be "that guy", please.
 
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I'm not being "that guy" I've seen that video before when someone posted it on another forum. As I said before there is no backwards section, no upside parts as indicated in that video and no sideways drop either. I'm not saying you have to believe me but from what I have seen it wouldn't be wise not to take note of what I'm saying!

Although this image may be quite old it is a pretty accurate description of what the ride cars will look like.

potter-usf-car-front.jpg
 
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Have you ridden the coaster, then?
Nothing is 100% right or wrong yet.
 
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Ethan said:
Have you ridden the coaster, then?
Nothing is 100% right or wrong yet.

Do you not think you are being rather hypocritical, after questioning what I know without even seeing what I have seen?? And then you are passing that video off like it is 100%! Until I get permission to post what I know I won't do it, but when the ride does open I hope you like humble pie (although I somehow doubt that based on the tone of your posts)

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Well since I have now been given permission here goes nothing....

It looks like another elaborately themed walk-through queue tour, along the lines of what we got with Hogwarts Castle in the original Wizarding World of Harry Potter. From the "Entry Hall," the queue appears to leave the building into shaded, then covered, areas before re-entering into the large "Bankers Hall." The next room in the queue is "Vault Display," then the "Reading Room." From there it's into what's labelled "Office Hallway" before we reach "Bill Weasley's Office." The next feature is labelled "Elevators," which take us up a level in order to cross over the ride tracks to access the center load island.

There are two load channels for the ride, with loading on the center island, and unloading off to the outsides. The ride vehicles are twin, 12-person, open-air cars, arranged in three rows of four. Each row is placed slightly higher than the row in front of it, in a "stadium seating" effect. The look of the cars is very Victorian, with individual lap bars and six Dolby speakers per seat for on-ride audio.

Front view

potter-usf-car-front.jpg


Rear view

potter-usf-car-rear.jpg


After the load platform, the two load channels merge to the south, then bearing to the left and entering Scene 1: "Turntable." In this scene, you'll face a brick wall, with two tunnel entrances, to the left and right. But before you proceed, the track below the first of the twin cars will drop from underneath that car. The track will come to rest at a 40-degree angle. Then, the track under the trailing car will begin to rise, matching the 40-degree angle of the leading car.

At that point, the two cars will drop in tandem into a third tunnel, below the tunnel on the right. Basically, we've just ridden a teeter-totter-like vertical track switch, attaching to the roller coaster track for our initial drop.

From there, we drop into Scene 2: "Dark Tunnel," a kinetic ride section with a small bunny hop and a hard right turn before we hit a block brake in preparation for Scene 3: "Ledge."

The Gringotts ride won't be a traditional roller coaster. It appears to be a hybrid roller coaster and motion-base ride, a la Spider-Man and Transformers. There are 3D projection screens throughout the ride, embedded in the rockwork of the tunnel walls, creating an illusion of open space, within which we'll watch battles taking place.

The first is in the Ledge scene, where some concept art shows a battle with wizards and giant-like creatures. The plans detail a shaker table under the track, and there's a waterfall effect at the end of the scene, including a fogscreen and water spritzers.

There's a slight free drop and turn to the left as we proceed through the waterfall, leading us into Scene 4: "Thief's Downfall." There are wind and heat effects in this scene, along with our first look at a dragon. Meanwhile, the ride's making a chicane-type turn to the left, then the right.

That leads us immediately into Scene 5: "Sirius Black's Vault." We hit a fog blast before entering the vault, where we see illuminated treasure ahead. The car makes a turn to the right, where the physical show scenery opens up a bit, with a large vault area with a flat 3D projection screen along the far wall. We then bear to the left, turning into Scene 6: "Ruins."

We're curving to the right through the rubble of what looks like a collapsed tunnel in this scene, which leads us into Scene 7: "Chasm." We're inside a large projection cone for this scene, which appears to involve Harry, Ron, Hermoine and… could it be? Voldemort? (The concept art wasn't clear - it almost never is.) Although there was a heat curtain and cold-air blast noted in this scene (Shades of Revenge of the Mummy?)

From there, we launch into another dark tunnel (Scene 8), which banks up and around to the left, taking us into Scene 9: "Passage," our finale, where Harry and company bid us farewell before we return to the load/unload platform.

And yes, we do exit through a retail shop.

Hope this gives you a bit to talk about :wink:
 
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