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UK B&M Hyper?

I think thorpes next coaster will likely focus on air time because they have more than enough looping coasters. Another one would be overkill unless it was something exceptional
 
Jordanovichy said:
Smithy said:
Alton you've got no chance
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That's not fair, all they'd have to do is dig a 250 foot hole in the ground ;) oh, then a massive area as well.
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In all seriousness, wasn't the woodie meant to be one of the worlds biggest because it would climb to tree height and drop into the valley? Former may be incorrect but you could probably get away with a decent height in that area.
 
Oooh hadn't thought of the valley but are they likely to build something there? It's nice for those who like the quiet to have a wander round the gardens, let the kids get on with their day. I think getting rid of that would get rid of something in the heart of Alton Towers.
 
Jordanovichy said:
Oooh hadn't thought of the valley but are they likely to build something there? It's nice for those who like the quiet to have a wander round the gardens, let the kids get on with their day. I think getting rid of that would get rid of something in the heart of Alton Towers.
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I believe that the valley has some protected trees within, so those would need to remain untouched. Wardley's woodie apparently had the trees kept and could have gone ahead if the bosses had agreed.

A B&M Hyper at AT will probably never happen, but Thorpe could possibly get planning permission for it. No other parks would have the reddies in my opinion.
 
Aye the woodie plans managed to only require a handful of trees needing removal and I'd imagine the supports necessary to support a woodie would far more footspace than the supports for a hyper would.

It'd never be a Shambhala type layout though, would probably have to be more of a terrain thing with a few small airtime hills after a big drop.
 
Thorpe: is ideal for a B&M Hyper along one of the side fences (behind Asylum maze)
Lightwater Valley: has the space but not the cash.
Blackpool: has limited space,
Alton: would never be able to go over the trees
Drayton: could have enough space
Paultons: Never
Oakwood: Maybe
Flamingoland: Maybe

Love to see a up-to-date woodie like "Troy" built at one of the above parks as we are so far behind with this type of coaster.
 
I don't think Drayton can afford one since they built that hotel and now have spent around £1million on that air race ride.
 
Jordanovichy said:
But I want Thorpe to get a wooden hyper :(

And forgive me for being ignorant, why would BPB get a hyper when it already has the Big One? I know it isn't B&M but 'normal' people won't notice any difference? :p
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I think once "normal" people had ridden the two they would definitely be able to tell the difference. PMBO as a kid was intimidating because of the size, but compare that with a B&M hyper and its just not in the same category.

I like the idea of a megalite, depending on how Alton look at expanding in the coming years there could be potential for a small one to fit in some of the woodland. Thorpe Park looks like they are just going to keep expanding outwards and i spose if it was kept small enough there would be room for one there.
 
AirtimeFreak said:
I like the idea of a megalite, depending on how Alton look at expanding in the coming years there could be potential for a small one to fit in some of the woodland.
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I think Rita is too similar to a mega lite for Alton to consider one. I mean Rita is basically just a launched shorter version, consisting of the turnaround and the s-bend part.

What I think would be awesome at Alton would be a Juvelen-style coaster! It has a naturally low to the ground layout and is very exciting, both for young people and adults. It think it would be a sure hit :--D But will probably never happen since Merlin wont find a way to advertise it as a "world's first"...
 
^^Good point, although there's no out and out drop on Rita but i can see exactly where you're coming from.

I would love to see a megalite anywhere over here to be honest, they look insane.
 
^ Not an excuse to create lots of pointless topics though! :)
I hope Thorpe Park get one. Isn't Shambhala classed as a family coaster?
 
Ethan said:
^ Not an excuse to create lots of pointless topics though! :)
I hope Thorpe Park get one. Isn't Shambhala classed as a family coaster?
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Well, not really. The marketing department at PA sold the idea that the whole area build around Shambhala was aimed at the whole family, because even those not willing to ride could still enjoy the splash effect, etc. Although not very intense, Shambhala is still a monster of a ride.
 
As much as I would adore a hyper in the UK, I would consider another coaster within the hyper category 200+ ft unlikely, but I wouldn't discredit a B&M hyper model standing just below the 200ft mark, like LaRonde's Goliath. We know only Merlin is capable of affording a B&M within the UK. All its UK parks either simply do not have adequate land or are restricted by planning laws or their target market, save Thorpe, which has the land, and the target market, but unfortunately there are a few reasons why this couldn't realistically build a 200ft B&M hyper:

-Planning restrictions....need I say more? Even if Thorpe is slightly secluded, these still apply!
-To be honest, Merlin's poor business sense means they are unlikely to build something this good - they are more interested in the concept than the general ride experience and its short term impact!
-On a less serious note, they probably wouldn't be able to paint this one black without sacrificing aesthetics.
-Capital investment - cost of pure steel, in addition to theme.
-Stealth would lose its appeal to the teenage market if it wan't the tallest coaster in the park...

A 180 ft 'hyper' could be possible though...
 
I suppose if Thorpe Park got an 180ft Hyper, they could advertise it has their longest coaster. Shame the UK don't really believe in just building a good, solid roller coaster anymore.
 
^Completely agreed. The problem with Merlin's current marketing strategy of building rides with unique selling points is as illustrated with Th13teen, they have a tendency to spend a disproportionate amount of time on making the layout as thrilling or appropriate as possible. They've almost begun to design a ride through its selling point. Surely, 'because it'll be damned good' is enough to justify a new addition?
And in the long term, wouldn't a ride which attracts people due to reputation, in the long run, entice more guests than a 'secret weapon'. You come back because you want to reride, simply stated.

Hence Stealth, with its 'hard and fast' reputation currently features far longer queues than 'the world's first psycoaster/ vertical drop trick track coaster'. People come off Th13teen and go 'meh'.
 
If Thorpe wanted a coaster around 180ft tall they should make it an intamin wing coaster like skyrush because the unique selling point would be its the only coaster of its type in Europe and skyrush is supposed to be amazing
 
^Second that! It would both be a "first" and a damn good ride!! It wouldn't need to be as high as Stealth, perhaps 150-180 feet something. And if the lift is placed in the other end of the park, the wing coaster wouldn't rival to much on the height of Stealth.
 
^^ It would also fit the Thorpe audience well. A B&M hyper would pretty much leave everyone dissatisfied. To lame for the teens, and to scary for the families.
 
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