Skyrush closure 2013 | Update page 11

[Ben]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

Cedar Fair operations are some of the best on top of that.

Lol, whut?

Although Hershey's really aren't much better.

And lol, who couldn't see these problems coming from a mile away.

 

[Intricks]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

Didn't Tatsu run a lot faster than planned, and B&M fixed it by changing the wheels?

Couldn't something similar to that be done on this?

If I remember right Tatsu only ran a few seconds faster than it should've throughout its layout and they did use a different wheel to slow the circuit time down to what they planned. Whether Intamin has done this to Skyrush or not to try and slow it down I have no clue.

The current wheel configuration was supposed to be doing that.

I honestly have no clue as to what exactly went wrong here, unless they didnt equate in the fact that their wheels havent been used before to slow down 16 tons (I know....not possible, but that is honestly how it seems).

 

[SaiyanHajime]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

Cedar Fair operations are some of the best on top of that.

Lol, whut?

Although Hershey's really aren't much better.

And lol, who couldn't see these problems coming from a mile away.

I meant in the US.

Who's better in the US with loading efficiency...?

 

[Ben]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

Cedar Fair operations are some of the best on top of that.

Lol, whut?

Although Hershey's really aren't much better.

And lol, who couldn't see these problems coming from a mile away.

I meant in the US.

Who's better in the US with loading efficiency...?

Everyone? Except MAYBE Six Flags America, but then you chuck in Knott's and it's about even.

You'd think they'd be in the position to load quickly as well, what with there usually only being one train to BOTHER with.

 

[SaiyanHajime]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

Everyone? Except MAYBE Six Flags America, but then you chuck in Knott's and it's about even.

You'd think they'd be in the position to load quickly as well, what with there usually only being one train to BOTHER with.

Sounds like you had bad experiences. :S

There's no hiding I dislike Cedar Pont, but they had the best loading I've seen outside of Germany. All the others are just, well, good. Never had this 1 train issue unless it really was dead. I've not been to a Six Flags park with decent operations... But I've not been to Magic Mountain. Georgia is the worst of the SF I've seen for appalling ...everything.

 

[Hyde]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

^ Word.

 

[Ben]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

^You're not a token black guy, you can't just come in and say word and it be cool.

And maybe it's just Cedar Point, because the rest blow. But, then the amount of time you spend at KD as well <//3 Urghhh.

The fact you're implying they're better than Disney, Universal, Busch, vomvomvomvomvom.

 

[Hyde]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

^You're not a token black guy, you can't just come in and say word and it be cool.

Yet I've lived in one of the nation's top 25 most dangerous neighborhoods for the past 4 years (Over-the-Rhine, Cincinnati). So yeah.

Yes, I am implying that Cedar Point ride operations is one of the best in the U.S. They get the trains loaded and through without bitching and moaning. Disney and Universal can do the same, so there's no need to split hairs over who is better. As long as riders are being loaded efficiently, I'm happy.

I can't absolutely think of a Cedar Fair park that was abominable; Knott's has been the poorest I've been to but still ahead of other parks such as certain Six Flags parks and Hershey (Skyrush's station design being a prime example).

 

[Ben]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

^You're not a token black guy, you can't just come in and say word and it be cool.

Yet I've lived in one of the nation's top 25 most dangerous neighborhoods for the past 4 years (Over-the-Rhine, Cincinnati). So yeah.

Good for you, you want a **** medal for not getting shot? Gangsta proximity does not a gangsta make you.

Hyde being a Cedar Point fanboy, let me try and at least act surprised.

I haven't been to CP, but I've literally never seen anyone ever say this before, and the other five Cedar Fair parks I've been to were all terrible, so, yeah. Even if one park were amazing, the chain as a whole, aint.

And that's not saying Six Flags are the greatest, so don't fret.

But, this all becomes moot when rain's within three hundred miles of the park.

 

[Antinos]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

I've met Hyde; you haven't. Obvi he's as black as Snoo.

And I don't really see where he's being a fanboy. He gave credit where credit is due, and yes, Cedar Point is deserving. They're one of the busiest parks in the nation and they know they need good throughput.

While we are at it, King's Island and Canada's Wonderland are also decent with throughput.


Back to Skyrush. The main problem isn't the wheels - it's the axles. I count about fifteen load cycles (force spikes, both positive and negative) per lap. Whatever material was used did not have a large enough fatigue limit.

 

[Hixee]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

Back to Skyrush. The main problem isn't the wheels - it's the axles. I count about fifteen load cycles (force spikes, both positive and negative) per lap. Whatever material was used did not have a large enough fatigue limit.

You don't say. But to my mind, even taking into account the fairly high safety factor that these components will have, that still seems odd to me that they'd all go in this manor. It's a major design flaw. Don't get me wrong, I understand that some of these things are hard to establish before you actually build/test/operate a ride, but I'm just slightly staggered this has happened. I mean, surely something like X2 would have equally big forces from those vast trains, and yet we haven't seen anything like this (to my knowledge).

I feel like they'll change two things (and possibly three). They'll slow the lift, they'll beef up the axles (by that I mean probably pick a better material compound) and they might (although I doubt it) add a trim or two.

 

[Snoo]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

1. Word isn't gangster.
2. Ben, shut up.
3. Marc, shut up.
4. Regardless of what anyone says, the ride still isn't as good as many say.

 

[Youngster Joey]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

1. Word isn't gangster.
2. Ben, shut up.
3. Marc, shut up.
4. Regardless of what anyone says, the ride still isn't as good as many say.

It does have insane potential though. It all goes back to those damned restraints.

 

[SaiyanHajime]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

^You're not a token black guy, you can't just come in and say word and it be cool.

And maybe it's just Cedar Point, because the rest blow. But, then the amount of time you spend at KD as well <//3 Urghhh.

The fact you're implying they're better than Disney, Universal, Busch, vomvomvomvomvom.

Oh Woah Woah, Disney and universal don't count. CP is better than Busch for speed of loading. The other CF parks aren't, but Busch ain't far ahead.

Sorry, we can get back to how Intaride can't get anything right now.

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[IntaminToWin]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

1. Word isn't gangster.
2. Ben, shut up.
3. Marc, shut up.
4. Regardless of what anyone says, the ride still isn't as good as many say.

It does have insane potential though. It all goes back to those damned restraints.

Or even the train in general. It seems to me that Intamin wasn't yet ready to make a floorless four-seat train.

 

[Hyde]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

Indicators so far point to a failed wheel inspection as the reason for Skyrush's closing. The restraints and station design rehab are all secondary, not seemingly the main culprit of the closure.

 

[Youngster Joey]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

^Didn't we already establish that?

The restraints and station are just the primary complaints about the ride.

 

[Hyde]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

I was pointing out that it doesn't necessarily "all go back to the restraints." The restraints suck, but having defective wheels is worse.

 

[Youngster Joey]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

I was pointing out that it doesn't necessarily "all go back to the restraints." The restraints suck, but having defective wheels is worse.

Agreed. Figure out the wheels/Axel's/whatever the failure was and deal with the other issues second. Hopefully they have the time to fix them all but to me the order of importance is as follows. the Wheel/Axel issue is the most important. Followed by the restraints and than lastly to me is the station. That's just my opinion though.

 

[Hyde]

Re: Skyrush is closed for this season:

Absolutely.

I imagine Skyrush will come out a better coaster after this downtime. The only reason this coaster is not my #1 is because of the restraints - they really were not enjoyable. And an update on station design is well met. Usually I could care less on a stations layout, but Skyrush's design did create noticeable traffic jams by having the load and unload on the same side.