Raptor - B&M 'Wing-Rider' - Gardaland

[Uncle Arly]

Pretty funky supporting - but I agree with Arly, obviously we don't have a proper sense of scale (other than the supposed normal width of B&M track, but it does look pretty damned tight for four overhanging seats. :shock:

Maybe I missed it, but do we actually know if its two seats per side? RCDB doesn't say.

Edit, concept art shows two.

 

[Snoo]

These trains will most likely be smaller then the X trains I reckon.

 

[Uncle Arly]

I was comparing them to Baco's more than anything. Will be interesting to see how they compare.

 

[Anonymous]

If you look at the "middle" picture (both vertical and horizontal) on theparks.it you will see the size of the clearance envelope of the car, and comparing it to the second picture posted on this page shows that it's doable, and it seems it's going to be a lot smaller than the S&S version...

 

[Uncle Arly]

Looks a bit tight to me. There's no way two seats on each side of the train would fit, surely?

Excellent point. You should probably email B&M and tell them to get that fixed before they start testing.

I didn't know at first if it was two seats. Thats why I asked. And I edited my post to say I had seen some of the concept art.

Anyway, thank you for the link Loefet, some really nice pictures on there.

 

[Inverse]

Not many coaster types can give you head and foot choppers at the same time! That'll get the riders trying to curl up into a ball.

 

[Nemesis Inferno]

That'll get the riders trying to curl up into a ball.

World's First Foetal Position Coaster?

Would be interesting...

 

[Antinos]

That's going to be quite an awesome element. One second, you'll be staring at a support bar, the next, you'll be whizzing through two.

 

[peep]

Just found a nice little video update. Has a very informative interview in Italian however the kind peeps that made it have done English subtitles

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n31NcEesOJ4&feature=sub[/youtube]

 

[SaiyanHajime]

In that video, the track looks tiny when he's stood next to it.

So does it only have two seats and when was that found out?

 

[Jer]

Really excellent video, very nice. I'm just wondering how short it's going to be, the guy mentioned that there are only 2 inversions.

 

[Anonymous]

Looks like they have reached the top of the ride with the addition of the crest of the lift...

That could mean that the ride could be pretty fast through the first inversion since the lift is so much taller than the inversion...

 

[Anonymous]

^ Then it might ride a lot faster than you have anticipated earlier in the topic:

I can see the train slowly navigating the track a bit like Air does...not going to be a lot of speed here.

More stuff added to the end:

Seems like it will be some sort of figure 8 section missing on the section after the hill.

 

[bob_3_]

Looks like the entrance is being built now too. Trying to figure out what the layout is, I don't understand how the ride gets back to that figure of eight from looking at the support footers.

 

[Anonymous]

some guy over at TheParks.it made a sketch of the layout and I have to say that I agree with him on it.

Source

 

[F.A.S.T.]

Why does the ride have magnetic and pneumatic brakes? Wouldn't it be easier to outfit the ride with magnetic brakes only or does B&M's design somehow prohibit them from doing that?

 

[Hixee]

^I'm not quite sure what you mean, but they use the magnetic brakes to slow the train down and the 'normal' friction brakes to stop the train as magnetic ones can't actually stop the train directly.

Is that what you mean?

 

[A-Kid]

^^ They would use the Magnetic ones to slow the train and the Friction brakes to stop the train.

I would guess its because magnets are fail-safe, there is no need for a saftey brake 'block' after the service brake block that you see on all (or most) B&M's with just Friction Brakes. They would save space from more track and air-brakes, and cost of more track and runing of the brakes, aswell as replacing a load more brass pads on the clamps from wear.

Thats all based on comparing there coasters with and without the magnets.

 

[F.A.S.T.]

They would save space from more track and air-brakes, and cost of more track and runing of the brakes, aswell as replacing a load more brass pads on the clamps from wear.

So then why don't they solely use magnetic bakes instead of the combination of the two? That's what I was originally trying to get at...

 

[Ben]

Because magnetic brakes cannot completely stop a train.