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Mitch Hawker Polls 2008 - Full Results In

Oooh, both polls at the same time this year. Maybe Mitch is trying to prevent the usual almost-forgotten delay that the steel one tends to experience by being run after the wood poll.

I'll get mine done tonight, not that i've ridden much new.

I always used to offer to help anyone complete the poll over MSN, but CoasterFanatics have usurped me these days with their easy-to-use thing. Anyway, if anyone does want a hand, give me a shout.
 
Done both of mine now.

The CoasterFanatics thing is great. It made it a lot easier, I've been a bit put off before, but that was really easy to use and really obvious.
 
robbeal said:
Oooh, both polls at the same time this year. Maybe Mitch is trying to prevent the usual almost-forgotten delay that the steel one tends to experience by being run after the wood poll.

I'll get mine done tonight, not that i've ridden much new.

I always used to offer to help anyone complete the poll over MSN, but CoasterFanatics have usurped me these days with their easy-to-use thing. Anyway, if anyone does want a hand, give me a shout.
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Prehaps he's trying to break another record :)
I told my friends to do it to make it a bit more "What the public like" instead of "fanboy". I wouldn't be suprised if Nemesis is back in the top 5 again, and SM:RoS is definatly going to be up there with Expedition GeForce, always is! I would like to see Behemoth and Fahrenheit in the top 100.
 
Oh god mine are going to take ages, thank god for coaster counter, I can't even remember if I have ridden some or not :lol:

It will take ages for me :(

Oh well, it all helps th epolls I suppose :)
 
Done my steel one, no point doing wooden one as I've only been on 2. :lol: The coasterfanatics thing was very helpful.
 
I've finally completed my Steel Coaster ballot.
I had 75 in the end.

Top was "Favourite wooden coaster".
Bottom was X:/WTF, preceded by G-Force.

:)
 
Mark said:
I do find it odd with some of the groupings though.
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That's always been my issue with the steel poll, too. I can fully understand it with clones: favourite Boomerang, for example, but some of them are just ridiculous.

Favourite Loop/Screw? For me, that's putting coasters like Rolling X-Train and Space 2000, 2 of the worst coasters on the planet, together with Fantasia Special, which is fantastic. That style has so many variations that it doesn't make sense to put them together like that.

To me, it's like saying "Favourite B&M Invert." Actually, I'd argue that there's more variety in Loop/Screw coasters than there is with Inverts.

Jewls1993 said:
I told my friends to do it to make it a bit more "What the public like" instead of "fanboy".
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That's another area where I find the poll is flawed. The way it's set up makes it extremely elitist towards coaster enthusiasts. The Coasterfanatics method has made the method of voting a lot easier, but, again, it's the groupings that will cause problems.

I consider myself to be fairly knowledgeable, but I still find myself searching RCDB during these polls to check what some of those coasters are. For a non-enthusiast, they would make little to zero sense at all. "Fav JS III" "Fav RC40"... That makes things difficult even for a lot of us.

Mitch Hawker's polls are definitely the best out there, I'm not arguing that, but they could be made even better if they were more inclusive. At the moment, they only really express the views of the coaster "elite," and it seems a lot of them "can't be arsed."

Take for example Eagle Fortress last year. Only 6 people rated it, including me, which means that of everyone on the TPR trip, only 5, maximum, bothered to complete the poll. That's not a dig at TPR by the way, but it's a clear example of some enthusiasts' general attitudes towards the poll. We've seen the same attitudes from members in this topic.

If enthusiasts find it too much of a chore to complete these polls, then for everyone else, who doesn't understand the terminology, it would be even worse.

I've got quite a few friends with 40+, 50+ coasters under their belts, which is more than a lot of enthusiasts. If these people were to vote, we would get much better, more accurate results from these polls. However, with the current set up, it seems that these people are actively discouraged from voting.
 
Did both of them, but I'm not very certain about the middle of my steel list... If A is better than B is better than C is better than A, what are you supposed to do? :?
 
^It can't happen.

A>B

B>C

then you can write:

A>B>C

However, when you sya that A is greater than C, you get this:

A>B>C>A.

That cannot happen. It's like an illegal inequality.
 
If A is better than B is better than C is better than A, what are you supposed to do?
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You can't do anything, as it is impossible to get into that situation.
What you're basically saying is "I think that A is the best out of these 3 coasters. However, I also think that A is the worst", which just can't happen.
 
Hence the irony of the situation. :wink:

Nothing is funnier than a good old paradox. :razz:
 
Just done my steel one. Nemesis, B:TR and Montu top 3 ( I notice a pattern there) with G-Force sitting a good last place
 
Well, I did my wood and then my steel ballot with coaster fanatics last night. I received a conformation email for my steel ballot this morning. Still no wood email- did I screw something up?
 
Got the steel one done. MH polls are definately a hard job but I think they're worth it. I decided against doing the wood poll having only done three from the list.
 
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