JOHN!

[furie]

Hixee summed up my feelings exactly, only I do find it disturbingly rough at points, almost Nash bad.

I guess it's the world's best scenic railway?

 

[Brett7710]

I can't help but agree with Furie and Hixee here. I used to enjoy going on PMBO, it would be the first coaster of the day and it would just be a thrill being that high up. Now I just don't enjoy it as much for pretty much the same reasons already stated, even if it had steeper hills I probably still wouldn't like it as I didn't enjoy Magnum XL either, maybe me and Arrow just isn't a good combination.
It was pretty rough when I rode it last year, couldn't wait to get off it actually, I do love the tunnel right at the end though, the train seems to pick up a lot of speed going into it, it's one of the best headchoppers for me, gets me ducking down every time..

 

[Scott88]

Probably because PBB fanboys are some of the worst in the community. A lot of them genuinely think that the Big One is the country's best ride.

Rubbish, having an opinion does not make a bunch of fans any worse than another group of fans who support something else. You should learn to accept the opinions of others without being such an arse.

PMBO is my favourite coaster, but you'll probably find a lot of PB fans actually prefer the woodies to the steelies at PB, apart from PMBO, I am no exception to that rule.

As for the topic, Avalanche isn't going anywhere anytime soon, sorry to disappoint a lot of you but neither is PMBO either. Revolution is under going some major structual changes and Steeplechase is one of Amanda's favourite coasters, so be surprised if either of those go too.

 

[Brett7710]

As for the topic, Avalanche isn't going anywhere anytime soon, sorry to disappoint a lot of you but neither is PMBO either. Revolution is under going some major structual changes and Steeplechase is one of Amanda's favourite coasters, so be surprised if either of those go too.

I didn't think for a minute there would be any short term plans to remove PMBO, but it does suprise me that the park keep pouring the cash into revolution, IMO it's a poor ride that's outdated.
Surely even when a coaster is one of the owners personal favourites, if it didn't make any business sense to keep it they would look to replace it, especially if the ride occupies a large amount of land. That's not me saying it doesn't make sense to keep steeplechase, when I visited the park last year it had one of the biggest queues (probably because of the poor throughput) i'm just saying that in general if you run a park like its just for you, its likely your going to restrict your profits and hinder the business.
For the record, I can't see that it is worthwhile keeping Steeplechase in favour of a new major coaster.

 

[mouse]

Has PMBO been retracked before?
(excuse my thickness)

 

[Ben]

^Yeah. Sometimes it makes it even worse!

Probably because PBB fanboys are some of the worst in the community. A lot of them genuinely think that the Big One is the country's best ride.

Rubbish, having an opinion does not make a bunch of fans any worse than another group of fans who support something else. You should learn to accept the opinions of others without being such an arse.

Except, they are the absolute worst. Most of them can't spell, and won't hear a WORD against Blackpool despite the fact it's a bit... ****?

People who like PMBO seem to have never been on anything of value or note. They're peasants, basically. The sort of people who you would see at a Butlin's thinking they're having the best summer holiday ever. Or, maybe, MAYBE, if they're pushing the boat out, a week in Salou (which is why some of the BPB fanboys may have been to PA)

It's beyond words how anyone who has actually been on a ride of any note can still think PMBO is objectively good. Joey's weird. Even Desperado's a LOT better. It meets none of the criteria that people judge a coaster by. It's crap. Absolutely awful.

 

[Gavin]

^Oh the shade! The shade of it all!

Fundamentally agreed, though I actually kind of enjoyed my last ride on PMBO. That was more down to riding it with people who'd never been on anything that big before and were basically crying on the lift hill though, and less to do with the actual coaster, which is, on every conceivable level, craptastic (without the tastic).

 

[Scott88]

Except, they are the absolute worst. Most of them can't spell, and won't hear a WORD against Blackpool despite the fact it's a bit... ?

What if some people have dyslexia? Maybe the site team on PB forums aren't that bothered about people being able to spell every word perfectly.

I think you should be careful having a go at people for spelling, you never know if someone has suffered learning problems in the past.

People who like PMBO seem to have never been on anything of value or note. They're peasants, basically. The sort of people who you would see at a Butlin's thinking they're having the best summer holiday ever. Or, maybe, MAYBE, if they're pushing the boat out, a week in Salou (which is why some of the BPB fanboys may have been to PA)

Yet another pathetic statement but over the years I've come to expect that from you. It may be ok for some people like yourself to go on holidays left right and centre obsessing over ''credits'', but some of us actually have to work five days a week at least and don't get enough holidays to spend the year chasing ''credits''.

You might not like PMBO, I do, that doesn't make your opinion any better than mine, or mine any better than yours.

It's beyond words how anyone who has actually been on a ride of any note can still think PMBO is objectively good. Joey's weird. Even Desperado's a LOT better. It meets none of the criteria that people judge a coaster by. It's crap. Absolutely awful.

In your opinion yeah, in other people's opinions, no, learn to accept that not everyone likes what you do and people may well get on with you a lot better.

Has PMBO been retracked before?
(excuse my thickness)

Yes.

For the record, I can't see that it is worthwhile keeping Steeplechase in favour of a new major coaster.

Removing Steeple won't do much for making room for a new ride, it is boxed in by Dipper and PMBO.

It'd be more of a benefit to remove Avalanche.

 

[Ben]

Except, they are the absolute worst. Most of them can't spell, and won't hear a WORD against Blackpool despite the fact it's a bit... ?

What if some people have dyslexia? Maybe the site team on PB forums aren't that bothered about people being able to spell every word perfectly.

I think you should be careful having a go at people for spelling, you never know if someone has suffered learning problems in the past.

Playing just for them. Thank God for non-judgemental saviours like yourself.

And I don't think it's a case of wondering whether people on a BPB fansite have ever had learning difficulties, it's more a case of match the learning difficulty to the poster.

People who like PMBO seem to have never been on anything of value or note. They're peasants, basically. The sort of people who you would see at a Butlin's thinking they're having the best summer holiday ever. Or, maybe, MAYBE, if they're pushing the boat out, a week in Salou (which is why some of the BPB fanboys may have been to PA)

Yet another pathetic statement but over the years I've come to expect that from you. It may be ok for some people like yourself to go on holidays left right and centre obsessing over ''credits'', but some of us actually have to work five days a week at least and don't get enough holidays to spend the year chasing ''credits''.

Uh. I work full time. So, good one.

In your opinion yeah, in other people's opinions, no, learn to accept that not everyone likes what you do and people may well get on with you a lot better.

Here's the thing though, and what a lot of people always forget - an opinion CAN be wrong. Or, at least, mis-informed.

The opinion of someone that has only been to a few parks is a very limited opinion and DOES actually count for a lot less than someone who has been to lots more parks. You can't be a wine connoisseur if all you've ever drunk is Jacob's Creek. And PMBO is Tesco value white.

And then an opinion can be flat out wrong. Holocaust deniers. It's their opinion. They are wrong. Liking PMBO is about on that level. Bit more morally wrong I'd say, actually.

 

[Scott88]

Playing just for them. Thank God for non-judgemental saviours like yourself.

And I don't think it's a case of wondering whether people on a BPB fansite have ever had learning difficulties, it's more a case of match the learning difficulty to the poster.

Lol, such an arsehole. :lol:

I never said everyone has had a difficulty in the past, but not everyone is perfect and mocking people because they didn't place a letter in the correct place is very low, but I guess for someone like yourself, you have to mock others to make yourself feel better. :wink:

The opinion of someone that has only been to a few parks is a very limited opinion and DOES actually count for a lot less than someone who has been to lots more parks. You can't be a wine connoisseur if all you've ever drunk is Jacob's Creek. And PMBO is Tesco value white.

I'm sorry, but that is rubbish. You can compare the things you have done, unlike yourself not everyone judges a coaster they haven't been on, so no, your theory is wrong on every level to be honest.

An opinion cannot be wrong, if someone prefers PMBO to Silver Star and they've been on both, how can their opinion be wrong?

 

[Brett7710]

For the record, I can't see that it is worthwhile keeping Steeplechase in favour of a new major coaster.

Removing Steeple won't do much for making room for a new ride, it is boxed in by Dipper and PMBO.

It'd be more of a benefit to remove Avalanche.

Rubbish, just because coasters are built around the plot you dont think you could get another coaster there?
Have you seen where infusion is built? You might have to be really dareing and build some parts over/under another coaster :shock:

If you plan around the other coasters the land available would be very similar to the plot which Avalanche sits on. Also as I said earlier in the thread, if you remove grand Prix it wouldn't be difficult at all to build a custom layout around Avalanche, especially since it's first half is all 50-60ft in the air.

I'm not particularly bothered about keeping Avalanche TBH, but its a decent ride and unique to the UK. I just think there are a few rides in the park which aren't as good and should make way first.

 

[Scott88]

For the record, I can't see that it is worthwhile keeping Steeplechase in favour of a new major coaster.

Removing Steeple won't do much for making room for a new ride, it is boxed in by Dipper and PMBO.

It'd be more of a benefit to remove Avalanche.

Rubbish, just because coasters are built around the plot you dont think you could get another coaster there?
Have you seen where infusion is built? You might have to be really dareing and build some parts over/under another coaster :shock:

No, not rubbish, when I am telling you there is no room, I mean it;

Remember this is Pleasure Beach, not Alton Towers, so it isn't going to be a short "blink and you'll miss it" type ride, it'll actually be longer than a minute and I find it hard to believe anything of any note will be able to fit into that space, without PMBO, Dipper and Streak being changed in some way. It isn't worth the hassle, especially when Avalanche takes up a lot more room.

Removing the Grand Prix and Avalanche would open up huge amounts of space, and if they took away the Tom Sawyer Bridge aswell, then it really would open up a massive bit of space to do something.

 

[Brett7710]

Now try looking at an aerial view and take away the go karts track, the plot isn't nearly as small as your making out, plus the turnaround on Big Dipper looks about 20ft tall in that pic, it wouldn't exactly be difficult to build over it. Clearly BPB do built short rides. Avalanche and Revolution are examples of that, as was space invader if I remember correctly, i'll leave Blue Flyer out because it's a kids ride. Sure the Avalanche plot would be easier to build on but wheres the fun in that? There would be a fair bit of space from taking out Steeplechase and the Karts and a bit of creativity could enable interaction with Big dipper, PMBO and Nickleodeon Streak.

 

[Ben]

Remember this is Pleasure Beach, not Alton Towers, so it isn't going to be a short "blink and you'll miss it" type ride, it'll actually be longer than a minute and I find it hard to believe anything of any note will be able to fit into that space, without PMBO, Dipper and Streak being changed in some way. It isn't worth the hassle, especially when Avalanche takes up a lot more room.

Yeah, Blackpool have done so well in the last two decades since the year PMBO and Nemesis opened. That really long SLC they opened is so much better than Alton's two B&Ms and two Intamins... and whatever for next year.

Yay for Blackpool's really long rides, can't wait for another one!

 

[Martyn B]

Tbh, I can see what Scott is saying, but, there is no need to just start slating Alton, just for the sake of it.

 

[Thekingin64]

I've been looking on Google maps and Bling and the old Turtle Chase site together makes a decent amount of space for a new ride. they could get even more as well if they get rid of that lighthouse thing.

The only problem is getting through the Big One's lifthill structure.