Willy Wonka vs. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

[furie]

I like the old one... I prefer the songs. I prefer the Umpa Lumpas.

I like the new one. But it's Burton so you can only watch it once every 24 years.

However, I'm an arse-hole and think that sticking to the source material is more important than making a good film so...

No! WAIT!

The Shining... Kubrick didn't use the source exactly and made a good film... The one that used the source exactly was complete and utter dross!

Oh dear... But... Americanised version of a British book - makes my flesh crawl...

Willy ****er... Oh my... Erm... I abstain!

 

[Rush]

^ Because CGI's are like, totally the lazy way out...

That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

I hope you realise that CGI is way more complicated than clicking a few buttons and drawing a couple of lines. It certainly isn't easy. CGI makes it look a huge amount better, not because it's an easy way out. (Which it certainly isn't.)

Maybe you should write to Pixar, arguing how lazy they are and demand them to re-make Toy Story using finger puppets and sets made out of cardboard and pipe cleaners.

 

[Uncle Arly]

New.

However, I do prefer the songs in the older one.

 

[LiveForTheLaunch]

Oh well, whatever I said about CGI.. The new movie still isn't that good.

 

[furie]

The new movie still isn't that good.

I think the reality of the situation is that the old one isn't either

 

[Ollie]

I swear Taylor must be making more accounts and voting in the poll as there is no way the Willy should be winning.
I really want to watch CatCF again now. But my sister had the disk last and she's probably lost it.

 

[LiveForTheLaunch]

I think the reality of the situation is that the old one isn't either

The old one is one of the films I can almost recite the entire way through and it's in my top like, five/ten movies, whereas the new one is nowhere even near.

 

[Ben]

I think the reality of the situation is that the old one isn't either

The old one is one of the films I can almost recite the entire way through and it's in my top like, five/ten movies, whereas the new one is nowhere even near.

Pssst... Taylor... newsflash... we don't all have to agree with you! Stop saying that like it somehow nullifies his opinion!

 

[LiveForTheLaunch]

Pssst... Taylor... newsflash... we don't all have to agree with you! Stop saying that like it somehow nullifies his opinion!

He said his opinion, I said mine.. What's the big deal?

 

[ciallkennett]

Can we please leave Taylor alone. Not only is it spamming the forums, it's also pissing a few people off.

 

[kimahri]

I prefer the old movie purely because is saw it first...

To be honest, WWATCF seems to be more inspired by the book but goes of to do it's own thing while Charlie an adaptation.

And stuff.

Edit. Also, Scary tunnel <3

 

[DjTommyB]

I do like both of them but I think I'll go with the older version.

 

[Ormerod]

Burton did kill the magic from the original Wonka, using it to promote his gothicy crap effects he blends into films.

Depp acted awful as Wonka. I wanted to pull them big fat teeth out of his mouth, they were too white!

 

[Ben]

Burton did kill the magic from the original Wonka, using it to promote his gothicy crap effects he blends into films.

Charlie is in absolutely no way whatsoever gothic... in any description.

 

[nealbie]

Is anyone actually going to post something relevant like the fact that Charlie was much closer to the subject matter it was based upon than Wonka ever was? :roll:

Burton did kill the magic from the original Wonka, using it to promote his gothicy crap effects he blends into films.

Depp acted awful as Wonka. I wanted to pull them big fat teeth out of his mouth, they were too white!

1) Where are these effects? Are we talking about the same film?

and 2) How is having "too white" a set of choppers a reason for the film to be crap? Explain please. His Dad afterall is a dentist, possible reasoning hmm? :lol:

 

[Dave]

If your talking about these 'effects' they put a almost cartoonish look on the film, which works really well in the art deco style.

 

[Jools]

They are both the worst films ever IMO! AND THAT INCLUDES LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS!

 

[Karen]

I love them both and nether of them are true to the original book.

I love the whole innocent feeling to the original film.

I love how the second one keeps the songs very close to the ones in the book.

Both are fantastic for the decade in which they were each made.

 

[Jake]

"The other one is better than the other one and I've read the book so my opinion matters more than most"

YAWN. That is such a gay argument.

That best one is the old one, there's something more charming and enjoyable about it. Seems more realistic, and I use that term very loosely.

I know what you mean, it's probably because so much stuff is computer generated in the new one, whereas they had to actually make all the stuff for the original, I especially love the giant room where everything is made of sweets in the first one, it's so magical.

So yeah, I like Willy more... I don't read books, so don't give a crap what's in the book.

 

[Ormerod]

Going back to Neal's post, If you watch all Tim Burton films, he over exaggerates elements, and makes bits worse. I realised he killed some of my favourite scenes from the original (The boat ride through the tunnel).

Johnny Depp (like I mentioned in my previous post) really burnt the biscuit for me. I loved Gene Wilder as Wonka, he was off the wall and obscene. Depp just played a trippier version of him. He didn't look good as Wonka either.