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The Truth About Disneyland Paris

Firstly, I forgot the Teacups... Making only two of their flat rides have a decent capacity...

Yes Disney go for high capacity rides, but flat rides don't always have a high capacity due to their nature, so it's a very hard balance to sort out... Especially with the ride needing to be of Disney quality...
 
I was talking about the coaster that went into the Studio Park and the new attraction that is being built. That shows DLP do not really follow the normal Disney way.

I am not sure what they can get I am being honest here, but it needs something there that is open all year.
 
^Oh yeah, Toy Story land, completely forgot about that... Lol...

Shows how much I think of that idea :lol:

That's what, 2 more flats and 2 half pipes (at least I think it's two...)? Not sure about the Parachute capacity but Musik Expresses usually have a decent enough one...
 
Ok here is an example.

Look at the footprint of Rage, now I am not saying get that. But there are things that could fit in that area.
 
Seriously, the walk from Indie to BTM isn't as long as you think...unless you're very lazy :P

It's inevitable that it's going to be compared to the other Disney resorts though, and in that respect, it doesn't come close unfortunately.

Its odd that you say that, and I know you share the same opinions about it as many others, but a lot of Americans say that the DLP Magic Kingdom is the better than Cali's and WDW's. I cant remember who exactly, its just what I remember from reading PTR's. Oh though I remember Robb Alvey saying it.
 
Martyn B said:
Seriously, the walk from Indie to BTM isn't as long as you think...unless you're very lazy :P

No, it is in terms of "theme park". There's just nothing at all for a good five minute walk.

There's nothing wrong with a five minute walk from the bus stop to your house, or the car park into work. However, a five minute walk in a theme park where you pass neither ride or shop/food outlet is like crossing the Sahara on a penguin!
 
That Pizza place is by Indie, which is next to a couple of small outlets. That Tree is just round the corner too, as well as the caves and rope bridges.

Yes they may not directly be on the path from BTM to Indie, but heck, if you want to go from BTM to Small world, you've got a much longer walk with even less in between :D

Stop being miserables and enjoy the scenery :P

(I'd say the location of HISTA & Pizza Planet is worse planning than this)
 
Having nothing on that route does give a good atmosphere for the ride you get to's theme though... Since it is meant to be a lost forgotten temple...

Unfortunately, it is an Intamin/Pinfari ride, so isn't worth it in the end :lol:

If there was another ride down there then it might be better... But generally the Imagineers often have immense reasons behind several placements and points in the parks, so I wouldn't be suprised if it actually was to enhance the feeling of going deeper into the jungle...
 
It's been a long time since I went to DLP to be fair. First time was 2001, second 2004 (literally weeks after joining CF - so I wasn't 'an enthusiast').

All anyone remembers about Indy is that it was a pain in the arse, hidden well off the beaten track with nothing for the kids to do while we waited around to ride it. It kept breaking down too, so we kept having to keep on going back to see if it had re-opened or not.

Seriously, the only lasting memory of the ride (prior to riding it) was "complete pain in the arse". After riding it "complete pain in the neck" ;)

I think that after riding we all said "I'm glad that I never, ever have to come down this way again".

Pizza Place was open for a bit if I remember correctly, as was a stall where Minor_Furie bought a plastic rifle.

It didn't deserve the amount of time and effort (in a theme park) required to actually go out of your way for Pizza, a gun and a crap ride. The imagineer responsible needed to be shot (and not by the plastic rifle).
 
Martyn B said:
Its odd that you say that, and I know you share the same opinions about it as many others, but a lot of Americans say that the DLP Magic Kingdom is the better than Cali's and WDW's. I cant remember who exactly, its just what I remember from reading PTR's. Oh though I remember Robb Alvey saying it.

To state the obvious, there will always be varying opinions and varying reasons for those opinions to exist. For someone who's been to California/Florida multiple times, the novelty of something different could come into play. Who really knows?

I can't mention California, as I haven't been there, and I've stated before that's it's actually quite unfair of me to discuss Florida, as I'm going from childhood memories and the "Disney" atmosphere was definitely more pronounced. Whether that's because of the park, my age at the time, or a bit of both is impossible to say until I get there again at some point.

Part of the problem here is people getting overly defensive of DLP, with very little to no experience of the other parks. It IS a decent park. It ISN'T as amazing as some people like to make out in comparison to the other parks which they (mostly) haven't been to.

You can't use other people's trip reports as a a "defense" against someone's personal opinions and experience.

Sorry, but my personal experiences will ALWAYS shape my opinions of parks over the experiences of anyone else, Lord Alvey included. Believe it or not, his, and many other "expert" opinions can be "wrong" when placed against personal experience.
 
I think you've got the wrong end of the stick, I wasn't using that as a defence to your opinion. Your opinion is your opinion and cannot be wrong. I mearly mentioned that as I was on the subject of peeps from the US preffering it.

And I'm not defending DLP at every corner, yeah my sig/ava may prove otherwise, but I'm not a fanboy, I'm not a fanboy of any parks. I like DLP, infact I like it alot compared to all the other parks I've been too, but I'm off to Florida later in the year...

I'm just in here to talk about that bloody walkway and just comment on alot of the negative comments towrds DLP

All anyone remembers about Indy is that it was a pain in the arse, hidden well off the beaten track

Funny you should say that as thats how my whole family felt on our first trip. It is a pain at first if enter Adventure Land via the main square. However the little path opposite BTM runs straight there, which I never found on the first few trips.

Hell, I never even knew Pirates exsisted on my first couple of visits, which was embarassing, I tell ya!
 
Man, there is so much hatred for DLP here! C'mon, it's getting a bit ridiculous. I thought I was bad for criticising DLP, but seriously, some of you guys are talking about it as if it's worse than being in a bloody prison. :lol:

In my opinion, design-wise, DLP has the best magic kingdom style park. The most beautifully landscaped, best architecture, most detailed, best versions of attractions. There, my opinion. No doubt I will get a response from certain members with a rather aggressive tone for saying that. I sincerely hope that that the term "fanboy" was not directed at me at all. Please read my post in this topic to see why. I hate being referred to as a bad person just because I like something.

Where DLP falls down in my opinion is the lack of good entertainment and maintenance (which they used to do very well up until the late 90's). When you go to DLP there is almost no streetmousphere whatsoever. If you're lucky sometimes you see one live band. There is also a lack of good stage shows since they got rid of Tarzan and Lion King. They need to return these things to get back to true Disney standards.

As for maintenance, though it has improved a lot recently, there's still a long way to go. Rock 'n' Roller Coaster, my favourite attraction, hasn't had it's full lightshow working for several years now. That makes me really upset because when it works properly it makes the experience 10x better. There are also loads of other effects and details around the parks and hotels which don't work, some more noticably than others.

The other main thing that irritates me is the overuse of the characters. With all this Mickey's Magical Party rubbish this year, then the New Generation Festival with Toy Story Playland next year... it just makes me cringe. We also saw Buzz taking over Discoveryland a few years ago, and also small events like Good Morning Main Street are now completely taken over by characters. It seems they have to include characters in absolutely everything now.

But still, depsite these things, I always have an enjoyable time at DLP. Rock 'n' Roller Coaster, Tower Of Terror, Big Thunder Mountain, Phantom Manor, Pirates, "it's a small world" and CinéMagique are all world-class attractions to me - my absolute favourites. These attractions, as well as the beautiful theming and landscaping of Disneyland Park, are what keep pulling me back year after year. :--D
 
As for maintenance, though it has improved a lot recently, there's still a long way to go. Rock 'n' Roller Coaster, my favourite attraction, hasn't had it's full lightshow working for several years now.

My last visit in Jan09 was my first visit to DLP where it felt as if it was loosing its 'magic'. The thing that made it (Disney) so special was the attention to detail on the smallest things, though it now feels as if they dont care as much any more.

Just like you being upset about the light show on RnRC, I was disapointed at quite a few things, like many of the features not working on "Honey I Shrunk....", music not always working on Space Mountain - something which they used to take very seriously, also quite alot of the anamatronics in Small were not working.

Its being picky I know, but its the small things like, and the attention to detail that make Disney parks so special.
 
^Completely agree. I would rather they spend money on fixing everything that's broken than spending it on tacky decorations for the castle and Main Street, as well as weak entertainment offerings.
 
I would really like to see them bring back the Lion King Show. It was nice being able to grab a bite to eat and watch a show!


Going way back now to the discussions on the financial problems the resort has. If they really are loosing money so quickly, why are there some approved plans to build 2 new Disney Hotels and a major extension to the Village?
 
Martyn B said:
Its odd that you say that, and I know you share the same opinions about it as many others, but a lot of Americans say that the DLP Magic Kingdom is the better than Cali's and WDW's. I cant remember who exactly, its just what I remember from reading PTR's. Oh though I remember Robb Alvey saying it.

gavin said:
Sorry, but my personal experiences will ALWAYS shape my opinions of parks over the experiences of anyone else, Lord Alvey included. Believe it or not, his, and many other "expert" opinions can be "wrong" when placed against personal experience.

Plus, regardless, based on what he was saying at DLR over the summer, Robb cerrtaainnlly doesn't prefer Paris!

But, alas, I shall sum up my own thoughts on Paris : it IS actually a gorgeous park, and, if it was still up to the standard it was when I went in 2003, it'd be my favourite Magic Kingdom. Sadly, it's not up to that standard anymore, and it's the little things that really, really let the park down.
 
Ben said:
But, alas, I shall sum up my own thoughts on Paris : it IS actually a gorgeous park, and, if it was still up to the standard it was when I went in 2003, it'd be my favourite Magic Kingdom. Sadly, it's not up to that standard anymore, and it's the little things that really, really let the park down.
Funny, since 2003 is considered one of the "dark years" by most DLP fans, but I myself would agree with you that overall it was much better then.

I would say the mid 90's was DLP's best period. Maintenance was perfect, entertainment was fantastic, service was quality, hotels were much better, merchandise and food was great, the original and much better version of Space Mountain had just opened... and the poorly designed WDS didn't exist! :P
 
I didn't realyl want to start another topic for this, but on their website, its showing that the Studio Tram Tour is closed for all of March and all of April.

You could just say its to do with the Toy Story land, but why should it be? Construction for that started ages ago, they already have their means for getting machiney in and out etc.

Hopefully they'll be doing something to improve it, it bloodys needs it (more than ever now)!
 
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