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The Next Tallest, Fastest Rollercoaster

Voyage has a height difference of around 250 feet from highest to lowest. Plus, Voyage isnt really all to tame....neither is Legend for that matter now that I think on it.

I think we will see some lengthy coasters being produced, with height and speed taking the back burner til new tech presents itself. Imaginatove and creatove layouts will end up being seen with the sprawling giants of today no longer happening.

When hasn't B&M been cooking up something?

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I would love lengthy coasters! God knows we need em...though a lot of parks are becoming limited in space.
Length, innovation, creativity...that'd be beautiful and not another uber Intamin launcher.
 
[For steel, I believe we nearing the end. Traditional lift heights will still increase in small increments, but we wont see a jump more than 20 feet.[/quote]

I disagree, I wouldn't be surprised to see Intamin pull out a 400ft+ I305 style coaster. One of the biggest issues with massive coasters is the cost of all the supports, and Intamin are clearly trying to sort that out themselves.
 
JJLehto said:
I would love lengthy coasters! God knows we need em...though a lot of parks are becoming limited in space.
Length, innovation, creativity...that'd be beautiful and not another uber Intamin launcher.
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Isn't SF Magic Mountain rumoured to get an Intamin multi-launcher that'll beat the record for worlds longest coaster next year? I know it's just a rumour but it would be pretty sweet if it turns out to be true :)

Martyn B said:
I disagree, I wouldn't be surprised to see Intamin pull out a 400ft+ I305 style coaster. One of the biggest issues with massive coasters is the cost of all the supports, and Intamin are clearly trying to sort that out themselves.
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Exactly! Now that Intamin has come up with a more cost efficient way of building tall coasters I wouldn't be surpriced if we see more of them in the future!
 
^Where have you read that? Not that it's a bad thing. I really like the "lap bar only" policy that Premier seem to have!
 
I think the next longest coaster will either be the rumored SFMM coaster (which is basically supposed to go from Apocalypse to the front of the park and back) or it will be an RMC Iron Horse. Reason I think it will be an Iron Horse is because it's cheaper than a traditional steel coaster, but gives the vintage look of wood. I could see a park like Holiday World utilizing the system since they could call it a "wooden coaster" to fit in with the feel of the rest of the park.

If it's steel, I would assume it would show up in China.
 
Yes, it's purely rumor but supposedly Magic Mountain are making some uber Maverick that will be the longest on Earth.

Indeed Intamin really are on the cutting edge of innovation with these monsters. The cable lifts, magnetic brakes (saves space) and now these 300 foot lifts that have like 2 supports...that cuts down on money.
I still wonder about space but I'm sure whatever park tries it will find a way (or Holiday world will build a 400 footer LOL).
Or yeah...maybe China will be the one to do it.
 
149 mph is such an odd number, is that the max of the system or something??
150 sounds so nicer. I'd like to see a (US coaster of course) that goes to 150, maybe holds the speed a bit before getting slowed down, and has a more intense layout that lets you feel some positive and negative Gs. Maybe only get slowed to 75 or 80 mph.
 
Intricks said:
So you want a closer version of Formula Rossa that goes .9mph faster?
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Well as we said...how much faster can we really go anyway? Beyond 150 sounds insane.
And yeah I think it's a cool layout, just I hear theres no air and its way too big. A more forceful and faster FR sounds cool to me!
 
What's wrong with something that launches maybe goes over a hill or too. Than brakes and goes through inversions. Just a thought
 
I'm no engineer/expert beyond common coaster knowledge but wouldn't that be too much? OR those hills would have to be super high (assuming we're going 150 mph)
I guess that would be pretty wicked.
 
Depends really, are we looking at a regular launch that hits a certain speed or one that launches, hits a max speed and then slows down to a more normal speed to finish the rest of the layout.

First one would be FAR too much money, and the second one would produce an extremely interesting layout imo.
 
Yeah thats why much as its lame these uber launches NEED to be slowed.
Like I said, the speed war must be over.
Height war most likely as well.
 
I wonder if the massive footers required for these massive supports for two support lift hills offsets the savings of less metal?

Also, if the economy ever gets back to firing on all cylinders, we could see both height and speed records eclipsed again.
 
At the end of the day, I really don't think that speed is everything with coasters anymore. When it comes to Formula Rossa, launching into a HUGE trim section, that's the only way in which speed is going to increase int he Industry as I highly doubt there being much more taller coasters than Ka being produced to be honest.
 
I think we might see another strata coaster a bit taller than Ka, but then, it would still probably be slower than Rossa?

I'd say we were more likely to see something more like Rossa appear in a park/country with a lot of money to waste - probably China, the Middle East or maybe even Russia or somewhere.

I don't think there's a limit for speed to be honest, but when you start getting to silly speeds you have to sacrifice vital aspects of the ride such as the layout (or being forced to have enclosed cars etc). Cost is also an issue, obviously.
 
Jake said:
I think we might see another strata coaster a bit taller than Ka, but then, it would still probably be slower than Rossa?
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I think you're right. I think we will see another 'tallest' coaster in the world record relatively soon, however I don't think we'll see a coaster take both records in one go. It seems unlikely they'd launch into a massive trim only to then try and break the height record. We'll see a tallest, but not fastest, coaster come along - then we'll see another fastest one. Personally I reckon we'll see the speed record broken before the height record. I think the cost to increase the speed by 10% is less than the cost to increase the height by 10% (just arbitrary percentages).

Jake said:
I'd say we were more likely to see something more like Rossa appear in a park/country with a lot of money to waste - probably China, the Middle East or maybe even Russia or somewhere.

I don't think there's a limit for speed to be honest, but when you start getting to silly speeds you have to sacrifice vital aspects of the ride such as the layout (or being forced to have enclosed cars etc). Cost is also an issue, obviously.
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Again I think I agree. I think we might see something enclosed though once the speeds get really fast. The thing is the faster the trains go, the less we're going to think it's a coaster, so maybe they'll be a cap like that. It's not just cost, but you need a lot of room for a very fast coaster, so again I support the notion we'll see it in Asia somewhere.
 
Jake said:
I think we might see another strata coaster a bit taller than Ka, but then, it would still probably be slower than Rossa?

I'd say we were more likely to see something more like Rossa appear in a park/country with a lot of money to waste - probably China, the Middle East or maybe even Russia or somewhere.

I don't think there's a limit for speed to be honest, but when you start getting to silly speeds you have to sacrifice vital aspects of the ride such as the layout (or being forced to have enclosed cars etc). Cost is also an issue, obviously.
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Agreed.

It'll be great to see what B&M will do next, as well as whatever innovation Intamin comes up with. I sometimes think man we're at a limit with progress but there's always something coming out.
Especially with GCI branching out, RMC maybe getting in the game, exciting times for coasters ahead.
 
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