DelPiero said:
Yeah, I don't agree with you at all Joey.
The standard B&M Hypers are all about large hills and floater, that's their MO. The Gigas, to me at least, are a different breed. Their layouts aren't the same as the Hypers, they seem to be more about speed than hill after hill. So why you would classify them as the same type of ride doesn't compute with me.
I feel exactly the same way about Intamin's offerings. The Hyper style (EGF, Skyrush to an extent, Goliath WH) are airtime machines, strong ejector. What do the Giga's offer? Speed and a good drop/first turn.
I wouldn't classify Millennium Force and EGF in the same bracket, why do the same with Behemoth and Fury?
If you prefer the Fury type ride to the Hyper type ride that's totally up to you, and most will agree, but dismissing a fun floaty Hyper just because it's a ride type you don't prefer seems like snobbery to me.
I'm also in the Kraken is most definitely not World Class camp.
Re: thinking of the hypers and gigas as different breeds, wow really?
That seems so alien to me... We don't class Nemesis and Alpengeist as different ride types based on height. And those are two VERY different experiences, way different than even... Silver Star vs Fury. And yeah, MF and EGF are the same thing to me, it's just one is average, the other is very good.
And, again, like I said in my last post... to me Leviathan was just another B&M hyper. Fury is SO different. So, so different. It blew me away after riding Leviathan a few weeks prior and thinking it was very good, better than Behemoth, but not MILES ahead like Fury is to all the others. Apollo was my prior favourite, because I believe it's landscaping and being at a good park helps it nose ahead of other contenders, like Goliath.
It's not even about preferring ejector or whatever else to floater - at least I'm pretty sure it's not. It's just that Fury is an incredible experience. It has floater, there's nothing wrong with floater, but where the other B&M airtime machines lack is they are repetitive, slow feeling, swooping things.
I mean, Peep's spot on when he says you've gotta look at this thing in situ in Florida and how important it is for where it is. He's right. But why not also have a world class and not just Florida class ride I don't get it?
It's been a long time since I've ridden Kraken and I've ridden a lot since, in fairness. But what I remember is a large B&M that's also very good. Very good in the same sense of being this varying thing that is exciting because of that. All the great coasters are so because are dynamic in some way - be that through forcefulness or relentlessness or pacing or whatever.