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Project Exodus at Thorpe Park; Current Layout (Mack) or Alternative Layout (Likely B&M)?

Project Exodus at Thorpe Park; Current Layout or Alternative Layout?


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A B&M hyper wouldn't have made anyone, internationally, turn their heads. Any praise it received would be attributed to the UK being starved of good coasters and airtime.

Meanwhile Hyperia, at least a little bit, made all US enthusiasts jealous. It pushes boundaries and produces extreme sensations. It's very clearly extremely good, and in a quite a unique way.

For me, the B&M hyper would have been pretty awesome, but Hyperia is nuts, and is the clear winner.
 
A B&M hyper wouldn't have made anyone, internationally, turn their heads. Any praise it received would be attributed to the UK being starved of good coasters and airtime.

Meanwhile Hyperia, at least a little bit, made all US enthusiasts jealous. It pushes boundaries and produces extreme sensations. It's very clearly extremely good, and in a quite a unique way.

For me, the B&M hyper would have been pretty awesome, but Hyperia is nuts, and is the clear winner.

Whilst I don't disagree, that doesn't mean anything if it hasn't brought people to the park.

If US enthusiasts are jealous, that's all well and good, and I'm sure there's some people who have come over for it / brought some eyes on the park. But in the sense of actually bringing people into the park, I think the difference between Hyperia as is and a B&M Hyper is minimal.
 
Having been on Hyperia over 50 times, I have noticed that Hyperia has brought in a lot of people both domestically and internationally.

It is a very unique coaster and a B&M Hyper wouldn't have had the same attention with the original plans. I understand Merlin wanted it to stick to the Canada Creek area and the coaster was limited as a result.

If it was longer and went all the way to the old Treasure Island behind Rumba Rapids, it could get attention for being Europe' longest coaster (it's currently the Big One) and possibly one of the longest in the world.

I've noticed quite a few people wearing Voltron merch around Hyperia which is a possible sign that the ride is attracting a lot of enthusiasts worldwide. It could also mean that Voltron is attracting people as well.

I personally see Voltron and Hyperia are both two sides of the same coin - that being very intense and airtime focused Mack coasters that opened this year although very different experiences.

In hindsight, I'm glad they have gone for what they did although I hope to see a B&M Hyper in the UK at some point, even if it's not a conventional one.
 
I find most B&M hypers excruciatingly dull for the most part, and am quite bemused that they're held in such high regard, so I'm very much in the "Hyperia as is" camp. I quite like a few of the B&Ms - interestingly, those are the ones I perceive people don't like so much (Silver Star, Apollo's Chariot, Diamondback and Behemoth are all fine) but some of the others I really don't care for (Nitro, Orion, and most recently I was thoroughly unimpressed by Shambhala given the attention it receives). I do agree with some previous comments that suggested Thorpe wouldn't have had the space, money or appetite to do a "traditional" hyper well either - I think we'd have ended up with a Hollywood Dream style compromise.

Hyperia, as it is, on the other hand is very unique and interesting. It's not really like much else out there, and it packs a lot into an admittedly short layout. On that point, let's be honest, any B&M hyper would've been the same - it's not like the UK is awash with long coasters, and the price of steel is very high. We'd have ended up with the aforementioned compromise and it'd have quite possibly ended up a bottom tier B&M hyper. What we have instead stands out nationally and internationally, has incredible airtime, unusual forces and elements, and is clearly drawing the attention of enthusiasts from around the world. I also think it's quite iconic and could well become quite emblematic of Thorpe in the years to come - their signature coaster if you like. Would a B&M hyper have had that same impact? I doubt it; if anything, I'd argue it might have only drawn more comparisons to The Big One? The risk would be the GP would simply think "oh, this is like The Big One but it's a bit more fun, and less rattly".

I think Thorpe (for once?) were quite astute in their decision-making here, and picked the best option - albeit, we all wish it were that little bit longer to really seal the deal.
 
I was a big advocate of the B&M hyper, would love to see one in the UK and realistically I think this was our only chance of ever getting one, so was a bit gutted when this Mack layout was announced. However, I think I've changed my mind, I think Thorpe were right to go for something more unusual, something unique. A B&M hyper wouldn't have attracted this much international attention, that's for sure. And seeing how Thorpe have cut a few corners on the Mack product, I'm quite certain they would have skimped on the B&M product too and the end result would have been a small and unremarkable example and not the Shambhala beater that many of us were hoping for.
 
A well maintained B&M hyper is better than Hyperia. However, Thorpe do not like maintaining rides and there are plenty of hypers that (currently) do not ride as well.

As great as it would be to have a decent B&M built over here (not a retrack) for the first line in a long time, they may... actually have made the right choice.

Hyperia may not be the God tier ride some people have randomly decided it is - but it feels unique.
 
I'm hoping Universal goes ahead and that's another chance for the UK to get a proper B&M hyper, of the typical layout and length. They have the money and the permission to build something of that height, plus Universal has built a (small) one before. Doesn't even need to be UK's tallest (200ft would be fine), and could be themed to King Kong.
 
I've ridden only one B&M hyper (Silver Star) and for a ride that big it's mystifyingly 'just ok'. Hyperia on the other hand is completely unique and felt fantastic. Ignoting the corners cut, which they would have done with any manufacturer or model, I am 100% happy they went with what they did.
 
I'm hoping Universal goes ahead and that's another chance for the UK to get a proper B&M hyper, of the typical layout and length. They have the money and the permission to build something of that height, plus Universal has built a (small) one before. Doesn't even need to be UK's tallest (200ft would be fine), and could be themed to King Kong.

Good point, I'd forgotten about this. Assuming the park goes ahead, Universal could certainly build a B&M hyper. Hell, Universal would probably have the money and the means to build a full on, Fury 325-busting, giga-coaster! Imagine that! 😲
Maybe that's what that +300ft height waiver mentioned in the proposal was for? 🤞
 
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