CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
They're dismantling the test set up? Must be finished with testing.
Phantasialand | F. L. Y. | Vekoma Launched Flying Coaster | 2020
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MrRC
Mega Poster
I stopped updating now coz : (last set of pictures untill something special to be seen)
https://svhas2004.wixsite.com/vekoma
https://svhas2004.wixsite.com/vekoma
GuyWithAStick
Captain Basic
Since it's all but confirmed that the test ride at Vekoma's factory is F.L.Y. technology, I (finally) merged the two threads. All discussion about the test ride can continue here.
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
The first building has formed. F.L.Y. will go under, over and through it by the looks of things.
Phantasiastisch
Mega Poster
The Dutch site Looopings.nl posted an article about the opening of Rookburgh. A worker of Vekoma told to a Dutch newspaper, De Limburger, that F.L.Y. probably will open in 2019.
Link article (which is in Dutch of course):
https://www.looopings.nl/weblog/8664/Opening-flying-coaster-Phantasialand-mogelijk-pas-in-2019.html
Link article (which is in Dutch of course):
https://www.looopings.nl/weblog/8664/Opening-flying-coaster-Phantasialand-mogelijk-pas-in-2019.html
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
The exact wording in the article Looopings is referring to is: "The opening of the Rookburgh theme section is at the earliest next year, but possibly only in 2019."
I've read the original article and it just seems like a report on Vekoma and their recent business. As far as I could understand there was no interview section with anyone from Vekoma (I assume they did speak to someone to get the figures about how much their recent business was worth but it wasn't an interview).
In the article the journalist says Vekoma won't reveal any information about F.L.Y. And the line about the opening year, I think, is from the writer and not anyone at Vekoma. At least that's how it reads. The article doesn't make a big deal of it, it simply says it might be next year or 2019 and moves on. If Vekoma had told them that you'd think they would make a bigger deal of it (oh look we got exclusive information). Only the attention seekers at Looopings are going mad with the mention of 2019.
Also their description of how F.L.Y. works, "After the restraints are closed the seat clap into the flying position so guests are already on their belly. Then the train is launched (as opposed to using a lift like other flying coasters)", leaves much to be desired.
As with Klugheim the park aren't announcing an opening date far in advance. Because things can and do go wrong. Delays happen. Given how they started promoting it in the park with the biggest sign of all time back in June I think they are planning for a 2018 open. But maybe they are aiming for the start of season 2019.
And maybe delays will push it back to 2019. They have already suffered delays with the concrete work foundations due to issues with the ground (something to do with the type of ground and water problems I believe)
The ground issues created delays in both the construction of Chiapas and Black Mamba. Both those projects also suffered other delays (Chiapas - Intamin's prototype systems having all sorts of problems) (Black Mamba - B&M incorrectly manufactured of one of the loop supports which had to be entirely redone. Believe that one support caused a month's delay.) Thankfully Mamba only ended up being two months delayed while on the other hand Chiapas.......
I'm still optimistic for a 2018 opening. I think it is doable providing no other delays befall F.L.Y. and the winter isn't too harsh delaying construction.
But until we see how much progress they make in the next few months it will be impossible to say for sure.
I've read the original article and it just seems like a report on Vekoma and their recent business. As far as I could understand there was no interview section with anyone from Vekoma (I assume they did speak to someone to get the figures about how much their recent business was worth but it wasn't an interview).
In the article the journalist says Vekoma won't reveal any information about F.L.Y. And the line about the opening year, I think, is from the writer and not anyone at Vekoma. At least that's how it reads. The article doesn't make a big deal of it, it simply says it might be next year or 2019 and moves on. If Vekoma had told them that you'd think they would make a bigger deal of it (oh look we got exclusive information). Only the attention seekers at Looopings are going mad with the mention of 2019.
Also their description of how F.L.Y. works, "After the restraints are closed the seat clap into the flying position so guests are already on their belly. Then the train is launched (as opposed to using a lift like other flying coasters)", leaves much to be desired.
As with Klugheim the park aren't announcing an opening date far in advance. Because things can and do go wrong. Delays happen. Given how they started promoting it in the park with the biggest sign of all time back in June I think they are planning for a 2018 open. But maybe they are aiming for the start of season 2019.
And maybe delays will push it back to 2019. They have already suffered delays with the concrete work foundations due to issues with the ground (something to do with the type of ground and water problems I believe)
The ground issues created delays in both the construction of Chiapas and Black Mamba. Both those projects also suffered other delays (Chiapas - Intamin's prototype systems having all sorts of problems) (Black Mamba - B&M incorrectly manufactured of one of the loop supports which had to be entirely redone. Believe that one support caused a month's delay.) Thankfully Mamba only ended up being two months delayed while on the other hand Chiapas.......
I'm still optimistic for a 2018 opening. I think it is doable providing no other delays befall F.L.Y. and the winter isn't too harsh delaying construction.
But until we see how much progress they make in the next few months it will be impossible to say for sure.
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
Haha. Looopings have removed any mention of the 2019 claim from their article.
Phantasiastisch
Mega Poster
I guess the opening will be 01/07/2018. It's just a feeling.
Phantasiastisch
Mega Poster
I think that we should not compare the construction of Rookburgh with Klugheim yet. It could be that they already start with theming in November, even if the trackwork isn't done yet.
In addition, Phantasialand announced this project that early which is why I doubt that the opening will be in 2019.
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
Not relevant to F.L.Y. but I just didn't think was worth making another thread about - there was an interesting delivery to Phantasialand recently.
Earlier this week a member on PhantaFriends.de spotted this sitting outside one of the backstage yards.
If you visited Phantasialand pre 2010 you might recognise it. This is a boat from the old Walzertraum boat ride that operated from 1993 to 2009 in the Berlin area of the park. It was replaced by Maus au Chocolat and Kaiserplatz.
This boat was sold to an Imbiss (an eatery) in the town Einruhr, fitted with table in the middle and used for outdoor seating.
It would seem the park have recently reacquired it for some reason.
Earlier this week a member on PhantaFriends.de spotted this sitting outside one of the backstage yards.
If you visited Phantasialand pre 2010 you might recognise it. This is a boat from the old Walzertraum boat ride that operated from 1993 to 2009 in the Berlin area of the park. It was replaced by Maus au Chocolat and Kaiserplatz.
This boat was sold to an Imbiss (an eatery) in the town Einruhr, fitted with table in the middle and used for outdoor seating.
It would seem the park have recently reacquired it for some reason.
MrRC
Mega Poster
Seems several track parts for FLY have been shipped to PHL :
Aug 6th :
Oct 7th :
Maybe they gonna re-use some trackparts from the set-up :
https://svhas2004.wixsite.com/vekoma
Aug 6th :
Oct 7th :
Maybe they gonna re-use some trackparts from the set-up :
https://svhas2004.wixsite.com/vekoma
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
Well they've been working on the station for ages now (and as far as we know the ground issues have been sorted) so it wouldn't surprise me if they are starting to bring the station track to the park now. I'm back in Phantasialand on Thursday, shall have to go snooping around see if there is anything new to be spotted.
Wondering when we'll see some official update videos and blog posts from the park themselves - we know they've been filming stuff and they said back in April, when Rookburgh was announced, updates would be coming at some point.
Wondering when we'll see some official update videos and blog posts from the park themselves - we know they've been filming stuff and they said back in April, when Rookburgh was announced, updates would be coming at some point.
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
Was at the park last Thursday, and heard from a few different members of staff that Rookburgh will open in 2019.
They all seem to be under that impression, and considering how much work there still is to do, and how much theming will be going in (the park's creative team have said Rookburgh would surpass Klugheim in terms of detailed and immersive theming), I now think the same to be honest. My 2018 optimism has gone. Hoping the extra time means Rookburgh will also feature a substantial secondary family attraction and as having overall some amazing theming.
I'd say that one corner of the site where track and buildings have started to go up only covers about 30% of the area.
There was a lot of activity on the rest of the site and a lot of concrete foundations + walls work has been done since the last photo I saw of the site 2 weeks ago. No new track to be spotted on the actual construction site yet either.
Also Thursday morning when arriving at the park I saw surveyors working outside the Temple of the Night Hawk building. They were carrying out measurements of some kind.
Found that interesting given the rumours that Temple and Hollywood Tour are next to be removed. However if Rookburgh is opening in 2019 then TotNH and HT won't close until January 2019, rather than January 2018 as had been originally assumed.
They all seem to be under that impression, and considering how much work there still is to do, and how much theming will be going in (the park's creative team have said Rookburgh would surpass Klugheim in terms of detailed and immersive theming), I now think the same to be honest. My 2018 optimism has gone. Hoping the extra time means Rookburgh will also feature a substantial secondary family attraction and as having overall some amazing theming.
I'd say that one corner of the site where track and buildings have started to go up only covers about 30% of the area.
There was a lot of activity on the rest of the site and a lot of concrete foundations + walls work has been done since the last photo I saw of the site 2 weeks ago. No new track to be spotted on the actual construction site yet either.
Also Thursday morning when arriving at the park I saw surveyors working outside the Temple of the Night Hawk building. They were carrying out measurements of some kind.
Found that interesting given the rumours that Temple and Hollywood Tour are next to be removed. However if Rookburgh is opening in 2019 then TotNH and HT won't close until January 2019, rather than January 2018 as had been originally assumed.