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Phantasialand | F. L. Y. | Vekoma Launched Flying Coaster | 2020

Update from Tobi on PhantaFriends.de.
Two identical towers have been erected alongside the inversion. The two towers are connected by a large metal arch.
They're difficult to photograph (legally) but PhantaFriends member Phlpictures got a photo the towers being erected.
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The structures very closely resemble this structure from the Flying Coaster poster/concept art.
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Good to see the first bits of major theming are now going up.
 
A lot of new metal work is going up. Some kind of building(s). There's track inbetween the structures here so hoping for some good close interactions.
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You can see the top of those two towers erected yesterday (the black structures) from Kaiserplatz. They haven't been finished yet - especially if looks like the concept art there should be 2 more towers connected by arches. They are right next to the track going up into the inversion so if the structure is finished I imagine that will be another interaction.
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Curved LSM launch track pieces are sitting out now at Vlodrop. Based on track shape + colour definitely for F.L.Y. !
It seems the speculation that it will be an inclined launch in the flying position was accurate.
From PhantaFriends.de
https://www.phantafriends.de/topic/1873-neu-20xx-fly/?page=35&tab=comments#comment-88503

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There are 4 launch parts. 3 curved ones and 1 straight track part.
They were already reported on before in this thread but the sideways tracks for the station are still sitting there. This bit of track photo has breaks on it so we can assume this part is for the break run.
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That just looks gorgeous. But for some reason I can only see the picture in the notification e-mail but not here in the forums.
 
could be 90°. But it could also be a rolling launch, so the train drops into the launch, because I think a 90° launch would be awkward, and I also don't think they could do that with PL's height restrictions.
That's how I could imagine it (it's just a wild guess):
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Since it is a LSM launch, it could go rather slowly around the bottom, and then accelerate out of there.
 
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So I guess we can expect the launch track to 'turn up' on park soon? I'll grab my coat...

I guess the general idea of a launch into a half loop of sorts is possible? Doesn't have to be too fast (and LSMs on curved track would indicate not too quick), and could work with the rumoured idea of an indoor section pre launch.
 
JoshC. said:
So I guess we can expect the launch track to 'turn up' on park soon? I'll grab my coat...

I guess the general idea of a launch into a half loop of sorts is possible? Doesn't have to be too fast (and LSMs on curved track would indicate not too quick), and could work with the rumoured idea of an indoor section pre launch.
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Yeah, launch into an Immelmann or something like that could also work.
 
Joey said:
If this thing was going anywhere but Phantasia, I would be laughing at it.
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Man, this is so true! I couldn't see this working anywhere else, but Phantasia are mad geniuses and so we can trust their crazily brilliant ideas. In fact, I remember when this concept was being discussed in a previous thread before we knew it was for Phantasialand. Loads of funny comments ;)
 
Sandman said:
Man, this is so true! I couldn't see this working anywhere else, but Phantasia are mad geniuses and so we can trust their crazily brilliant ideas. In fact, I remember when this concept was being discussed in a previous thread before we knew it was for Phantasialand. Loads of funny comments ;)
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Yeah I was so sure the Vekoma Prototype in Vlodrop is for a darkride :D
 
Ireeb said:
could be 90°. But it could also be a rolling launch, so the train drops into the launch, because I think a 90° launch would be awkward, and I also don't think they could do that with PL's height restrictions.
That's how I could imagine it (it's just a wild guess):
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Since it is a LSM launch, it could go rather slowly around the bottom, and then accelerate out of there.
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It is a possibility, indeed, but I was under the impression that one would want to avoid such "power dives" because it presses the riders pretty hard against the restraints? You don't want too harsh positive G forces on a flying coaster, after all.

Then again, I don't see any feasible alternative with that many curved pieces. Maybe they will do a sort of "pull-up turn" (damn, the quality of my English really plunges after midnight), where the track is heavily banked, and ascends and turns as it launches? Then again, wonky lateral forces on a launch track is possibly even less desirable than positive G on the riders, so maybe not...
 
Pokemaniac said:
It is a possibility, indeed, but I was under the impression that one would want to avoid such "power dives" because it presses the riders pretty hard against the restraints? You don't want too harsh positive G forces on a flying coaster, after all.

Then again, I don't see any feasible alternative with that many curved pieces. Maybe they will do a sort of "pull-up turn" (damn, the quality of my English really plunges after midnight), where the track is heavily banked, and ascends and turns as it launches? Then again, wonky lateral forces on a launch track is possibly even less desirable than positive G on the riders, so maybe not...
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LSMs can both de- and accelerate (or keep the speed constant), so they can control the speed and the forces at that point freely. They can make the LSMs slow down the train until it is out of the valley and then accelerate it.
We also shouldn't forget: We don't know if these are all the launch pieces. Maybe there are more, maybe straight ones. The two things I believe make the most sense are either the one I did in NL2 or a launch into a Loop/Immelmann/Sidewinder etc.
 
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daviddoc said:
Maybe all 3 of the launch track parts aren't meant to fit together and it may have multiple launches instead?
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They would probably be too short for individual launches. They seem to have the same radius as well, so I would be surprised if they are not going to be one part.
 
daviddoc said:
they could lead into other pieces and not be the entire launch
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I think if it was a multi-launch they would have announced it as "world's first multi-launched-flying-coaster", since that sounds even better marketing-wise than "world's first launched flying coaster"
 
Yeah but that would imply to the public that a single-launch flying coaster already exists, perhaps...they'd obviously want to make it known that this is the very first.
 
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