Kolmården's Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

[Hixee]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark - Wildfire - RMC Wooden Coaster

It's awesome to see RMC progressing like this. Firstly moving out of the US market, and secondly really starting to flex their muscles with their technology.

Can't wait to see this completed!

 

[Nemesis Inferno]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark Teasing 2016 Project "Wildfire"

1. It will be a game changer, just like Balder, El Toro, Outlaw Run and Goliath. Check.

2. It has the potential to be the best in the world. Check.

3. No one is believing that they are doing it. Check. (seriously, who would have believed this a month ago).

4. It won't feature any gimmicks. Check.

An inverting 'wooden' coaster in itself is a gimmick, plus the whole tallest in Europe, so plenty of gimmicks on this thing...

The second point will be down to personal preference, many rave about the likes of Colossos, but I didn't click with it, could be exactly the same thing for many others and RMC coasters... What one person thinks is the best ride in the world, another may say it's god-awful...

 

[_koppen]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark Teasing 2016 Project "Wildfire"

An inverting 'wooden' coaster in itself is a gimmick, plus the whole tallest in Europe, so plenty of gimmicks on this thing...

^ Yes, I agree that the inversions can be considered a gimmick, they have however been so much more common now that I don't consider them that anymore. I was more thinking along the lines of "first" launch, tilt, inverted etc..

Also it will be the fastest in Europe, not tallest.

could be exactly the same thing for many others and RMC coasters... What one person thinks is the best ride in the world, another may say it's god-awful...

Absolutley, however, if Outlaw Run is anything to judge from then that won't be the case :wink:

 

[Mushroom]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

Just done some quick research to how far this park is away from a airport...

45 minutes from Stockholm Skavsta airport! Erm... we know a major airline has a base there...

http://goo.gl/maps/6f213

 

[EthC]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

The fb page is already getting lots of people complaining that it is wrong that they are building it and that they are ruining the habitat for the animals and a endangering them. Looks great though! I hope there is no more hassle for them.

 

[_koppen]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

^ There are lots of them yes, but remember that it dosen't really matter what the park post, the complainers are still there complaining about the animals care taking,

 

[EthC]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

^ There are lots of them yes, but remember that it dosen't really matter what the park post, the complainers are still there complaining about the animals care taking,

Yeah I agree you are never going to win with the anti-zoo people although looking at the place it looks like the nicest, most spacious zoo I have ever seen so I not sure what the problem is. But yes a swedish trip next year for Helix (Only time I can get there) and in 2016 for this ride alone is definitely on the cards for me!

 

[Hyde]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

It looks very fun.

... However.

The length could be a blessing and a curse. While watching the POV, I was having flashbacks to Boardwalk Bullet. A very fantastic opening sequence, but runs longer than needed, with elements lagging towards the end.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-F321-IfAA[/youtube]

However, it looks like a fab ride. Excited to see this in 2016.

 

[Intricks]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

For as much innovation the company spouts, as well as the extremes they claim to go to, this is literally the same-old-same-old. I dont see anything remotely innovative in the design and it just looks like Outlaw run with Iron Medusa mashed together with a brief glimpse of Goliath.

It looks fun, but for a company that is remaking the wooden coaster industry, all I see is steep drops, barrel rolls and random 90°+ overbanks of randomness.

 

[Hyde]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

^ The opening sequence does appear very similar to Outlaw Run. But that isn't necessarily a bad thing!

 

[ECG]

Re: Wildfire | Kolmarden, Sweeden | RMC Woodie - 2016

Wow! So glad to see RMC in Europe.

That drop is so droolworthy!

Way to act surprised Ian. :lol:
I guess we (Ian & I) should have confirmed this long ago but I kept it to myself out of respect to Peter Osbeck at Gröna Lund, who hinted at this during our visit last summer. He said we would be surprised and I certainly am. We thought it would go to Skara Sommarland because Kolmarden seemed out of the question. And Peter will have his hands all over this baby, which is a very good thing. :--D

 

[marc]

Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

Tbh both of you acted better than some others, at least you did not say I know something you don't know lol. Hats off to both of you.

Think it's looks great and we will get to experience this without a 8 hour flight lol.

Hard to tell be the pov but it does not look to have the speed of some of the others, but it will probably be the best woodie in Europe. Let's face it there is not much competition lol.

 

[tomahawk]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark Teasing 2016 Project "Wildfire"

The second point will be down to personal preference, many rave about the likes of Colossos, but I didn't click with it, could be exactly the same thing for many others and RMC coasters... What one person thinks is the best ride in the world, another may say it's god-awful...

Show me one person who has ever called an RMC god-awful, let alone awful, or even bad? Yeah, they don't exist unless they are just trying to troll.

As for the coaster? 187 feet and that epic inverted air hill? Yeah, I'm down.

 

[Intricks]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

^ The opening sequence does appear very similar to Outlaw Run. But that isn't necessarily a bad thing!

Im not saying it is, but they have just sat and rehashed nearly the same layout. Where is the innovation the company had stated before? Barrel roll after barrel roll after barrel roll. Whats that, modified barrel roll?! Such innovation!

At least change it up or SOMEthing! Give it a loop, or something that isnt a variant of the element that I associate with their name.

 

[marc]

Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

Many people in Europe would not even know about the other coasters in the USA. For them it will be different, plus we don't have many coasters this high.

 

[tomahawk]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

^ The opening sequence does appear very similar to Outlaw Run. But that isn't necessarily a bad thing!

Im not saying it is, but they have just sat and rehashed nearly the same layout. Where is the innovation the company had stated before? Barrel roll after barrel roll after barrel roll. Whats that, modified barrel roll?! Such innovation!

At least change it up or SOMEthing! Give it a loop, or something that isnt a variant of the element that I associate with their name.

This isn't similar at all? With the logic you are saying every inverted coaster is the same, just a few changes here and there. Goliath is completely different than Outlaw Run, NTG doesn't have any inversions, ron Rattler is in a **** canyon. Yeah they may have a barrel roll, but every invert has a vertical loop, so does that make it the same?

 

[Intricks]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

I realize this. While my issue with the layout is a moot point for me to pick on (although as this is an enthusiast forum, my point still stands), the barrel roll-ing has got to stop at some point.


Tomahawk, while Inverts may have a Vertical loop, they arent filled with nothing BUT vertical loops. Outlaw Run has 2 barrel rolls, Goliath at least nixed them in favor of the upside down hill and a dive loop, Iron Medusa has 3 and this has more barrel rolls. That is all this company has done in terms of inversions: Barrel Rolls and a Single Dive Loop (Im not counting the upside airtime hills as a different type of inversion as its a cut off zero-g and basically equates to what a barrel roll does). My beef is with the lack of living up to what theyve responded to on their facebook open questionnaire. So far, theyve lacked any real innovation. Yes, Inverts nearly all have the same type of inversion list, but they at least change it up with different positioning throughout the layout. RMC may be a young company, and I know I am being harsh towards them, but if I can basically make an estimated guess on where an inversion will be placed at any given point on their ride, then they lack innovation to me.

The ride may be a blast, but this is nearly the same beef I had with I305 and Skyrush. They went there just cause, and it annoys me to see such potential wasted.

 

[ECG]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

Sorry Intricks, but I have to agree with Marc. In the USA RMC, or better said, a park would should have RMC design something significantly different. But in Europe these coasters are completely unknown and going with a proven design winner is best.

 

[Hyde]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

I have experienced that the innovation for RMC isn't in being able to successful do an inversion on a wooden coaster. It is in the tight transitions and turns, and an uncanny knack for really pushing the design envelop on airtime and layout.

Yes the barrel roll is found on many RMC creations. But so too is the zero-g roll on many B&M inverts, over banked drops on Eurofighters, or Top Hats on Intamin Accelerators.

Pulling some of the layout rendering photos, we can definitely see some new transitions that haven't been offered in other RMC creations, mixed with previous favorites like the over banked turn or sideways airtime hill.

Two things looking further at these photos:

1. The interplay with terrain will probably be much more pronounced than it is in the computer-rendered POV. I think that will be key for this roller coaster in the end, just as it is for Boulder Dash.

2. The intersections of track should provide nice GCI-ish Fly-Bys and head choppers.

 

[Youngster Joey]

Re: Kolmårdens Djurpark | Wildfire | RMC Wooden Coaster

I think it looks fantastic and based on RMC's track record this will be a fantastic addition to the park.

More importantly, I noticed a wave turn. Enjoy the strange sensation of sideways airtime guys and gals.