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Intamin Release Plans for 12-Inversion Coaster

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UC said:
Your notion that they essentially sat around the table and said "Hey, let's just keep adding corkscrews" is completely ridiculous.
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Clearly that was their thought, because there is a whopping 4 corkscrews!! Are you blind?!?!

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You know, Xpress, you do this all the time. You did it when you knocked Intamin in the Raptor topic or whatever it was, and when you knocked designers in another topic. You seem to be under some notion that the people that build these attractions aren't professionals that consider many angles before settling on a final design.
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This is a coaster enthusiasts forum. We do this all the time on all of the forums. Someone doesn't like something, they voice their opinions about it. And yet, somehow, me doing it is news to you? Where the HELL have you been??

I seem to be? It seems to me that Intamin just wants to get the "Worlds Most Inversions" and doesn't actually give a **** about what elements they put in, oh no, just as long as they're inversions!

All I'm saying is that Intamin could have done better! Half of the coaster enthusiast world agrees! We're tired of seeing repeated elements in a layout, besides airtime hills and turns.

A careful eye would also note that they're all in the same direction, as well as 2 of the heartline rolls.

BUT, I was not slating an actual set in stone design. What we have here is a CONCEPTUAL photo, not an actual layout. Therefore, what I am doing is criticizing a photo of something that doesn't exist yet. There is nothing wrong with that. It's like judging art. You like some, you don't like some.

Chill out man ;)
 
Xpress, to be honest, if the thing resembled Colossus I'd agree with you, but it doesn't. At least, not in a significant way. The ride is clearly totally new from the first drop. It's an off the shelf design, so it's going to be something fairly square and organised. You can't launch a 12 looping terrain coaster that's totally new and unique, because it won't fit 99% of parks. The ride clearly has a lot of new elements, and just utilises a small amount of the Colossus layout. I read your post and was just expecting to see another 2 corkscrews between the Cobra roll and the inlines......
 
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Lol.

As for the ride it's self All I can remeber was Loefets recreation and possible seeing a consept image during IAAPA one year. Even then I can't really remeber what the NL rec was like. I do agree with Jake on the whole Quad roll. I do enjoy that bit in colossus but hey the corkscrews change things up a bit in a way.
 
UC said:
Clearly that was their thought, because there is a whopping 4 corkscrews!! Are you blind?!?!
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Turn on your brain for a second.

My point is that the corkscrews are there for a reason. Intamin intentionally put them there after what was likely a lengthy design process.

This is opposed to your train of thought, which seems to think Intamin just whip something up on NL and throw it out there for people to buy.

You clearly have absolutely no idea what a design process entails.
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Don't mis-quote me just to try to make an argument over a sarcastic response. You're bitching over spilled milk.

This is a coaster enthusiasts forum. We do this all the time on all of the forums. Someone doesn't like something, they voice their opinions about it. And yet, somehow, me doing it is news to you? Where the HELL have you been??
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There is a difference between criticism and disrespect. Most people do NOT do what you do. Most people will criticize a layout, or perhaps state what they would have liked to see - what you do, however, is disrespect the company entirely based on absolutely no facts.

It's one thing to criticize the ride, because we can all see the ride. It's another to criticize a company and design process that you have absolutely no idea about.

Criticism without foundation is useless, and often lands in the realm of sheer disrespect. It's people like you that give enthusiasts a bad name.
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Are you not reading what I was arguing about? No, you haven't, clearly. Intamin used 4 corkscrews: that's a lot of the same element, not to mention in the same direction.

I strongly think Intamin could use something else in place of the 2 additional corkscrews if they wished to, in the real layout. Like, say, a storm runner style roll?

I seem to be? It seems to me that Intamin just wants to get the "Worlds Most Inversions" and doesn't actually give a about what elements they put in, oh no, just as long as they're inversions!
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Once again, making completely uneducated statements.
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Sarcastic response.

All I'm saying is that Intamin could have done better! Half of the coaster enthusiast world agrees! We're tired of seeing repeated elements in a layout, besides airtime hills and turns.
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What I'm saying is that after a design process, Intamin concluded this was the best possible design to showcase an idea. I happen to agree. It's compact, rather small, it has a neutral footprint (it's square and flat), and packs a lot of punch in to a tight space. It has the ability to appeal to a wide range of customers.

Companies don't showcase massive rides like Dragon Khan, or Katun, because they don't appeal to a wide range of parks. They showcase rides like this, which offer a concept in a way that many parks can look at it and say "Hey, this is do-able..."

If a park then chooses to modify the layout or approach Intamin for something more, excellent. The point is to try and sell the customer on the idea of your attraction first - other details can be worked out later. This conceptual model is a fantastic example of that.
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Yes, I agree as well. Most parks see the appeal of having a ride with the title of "Worlds Most Inversions". I am not most parks, and am merely voicing my opinions on the matter of 4 corkscrews.

BUT, I was not slating an actual set in stone design. What we have here is a CONCEPTUAL photo, not an actual layout. Therefore, what I am doing is criticizing a photo of something that doesn't exist yet. There is nothing wrong with that. It's like judging art. You like some, you don't like some.
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No, see, this is my problem with the things you write - MOST people here criticize the photo - the "art," as you put it.

You take it a step further and insult the artist and his method of work. THAT, Xpress, is what I take issue with.
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What can I say? I like to be thorough.

No matter how much you argue with me, it still won't change the fact that I do not like the 4 corkscrews idea.
 
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Thanks Justin, but does anyone know how to convert from km/hr to mph and the other metric- to US conversion factors used?
 
^You're still the one who can't justify that these are my thoughts on the matter.... Stop making yourself look like the site douchebag. Wait, never mind, you already are. Please continue...

And yet I still cannot believe you're trying to do all of this again..

@ bizarrofan10: Go to Google and convert _______ KM/H to MPH.
 
UC said:
^You're still the one who can't justify that these are my thoughts on the matter.... Stop making yourself look like the site douchebag. Wait, never mind, you already are. Please continue...
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Nope, sorry, unfounded disrespect cannot be justified in any circumstance. You're still wrong.

Though, it's obvious you have no intention of pursuing a higher opportunity within this industry, so it's very unlikely you care.
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No I care, I just don't care for your disrespect of my thoughts on the matter.
 
Intamin knows what's up.

Are they thrilled that they had to repeat the element in this fashion? Who knows.

Was it probably the best decision given what this layout is meant for? Highly likely.

If this exact layout was built does Xpress or anyone else required to like the ride? Nope.

Just sayinnn.

Also, a launched version of this + remove two corkscrews = sex imo.
 
I'm not saying I won't ride it, given the chance, I'm saying I DON'T LIKE THE 4 CORKSCREWS IDEA, which apparently UC can't seem to get into his this dick head.

As far as thrilled, I'm sure Intamin in general is thrilled with releasing new ideas to the GP, as well as to the not-so GP. I mean, who wouldn't be thrilled about releasing new ideas to potential buyers?

I think.. In some ways.. That coaster companies do this, just to pleasure themselves. They don't care about the money, or the reputation, or even what the public thinks... They just want to pleasure themselves.
 
Guys, seriously. Please quit the arguing now...

Personally, I would love to give the coaster a go. At the moment though, it is just a drawing and until a park actually orders one there is little I can say about it besides good on Intamin for wanting to raise the bar.
 
I have another thought, what if this turns out just like colossus? Seems like all I hear is that it's a good first ride, but boring afterwards.

UC said:
I'm not saying I won't ride it, given the chance, I'm saying I DON'T LIKE THE 4 CORKSCREWS IDEA, which apparently UC can't seem to get into his this dick head.
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Once again, Xpress misses the point. Though, again, it's obvious he doesn't care about any sort of future in the industry, so I suppose it really doesn't matter to him.

To restate, Xpress, I couldn't care less about your opinion on the corkscrews. It's your disrespect of Intamin I have a problem with.
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OK, time to stop you goon... And fwiw I've never missed the point, I didn't care to comment on it.
 
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