Freestyle Music Park/Hard Rock Park to Re-Open!?!?!

[outbackoasispark]

:shock: YES it will! FPI US LLC cannot find investors, the park has failed twice and I think this time if it is family-owned it will not fail. This is going to take a true grassroots effort to bring it into fruition! :--D

Family-owned businesses get more involved in their communities and surrounding areas, they understand that they are apart of the culture there and fight to survive longer than typical too big to fails.

If any visited the park before, I know you miss it and I know I do as well as the original Pavilion amusement park. I know many of us were sad and felt pretty let down when it was tore down. Freestyle Music Park may not have as long as a history as the Pavilion or even Magic Harbor park(Pirateland Amusement Park.)

But one thing is for sure, this has to stop. What will become to formally be known as Freestyle Music Park is too much of a great park to continue to see go to waste. Let's not let the history of what occurred with Magic Harbor Park continue. As it opened in 1964, closed in 1972, reopened in 1975 to be repossessed and reopened again in 1976 before closing and opened one last time in 1983. Let's not allow another park that has a lot of potential crumble. I have started a project to raise the money to buy the park and turn it into a Family-owned and operated park. When businesses are Family owned traditionally they do more and are more involved in their community and sustaining that. I believe in Myrtle Beach and I know several of you who are reading this do as well!

Let's keep Myrtle Beach alive!

I have several plans that would create sustainable job-growth, provide job security, & attract new businesses all while boosting the economy. The three stores remaining open by the park are hoping the doors will re-open as they know themselves they would see a boost as well.

All this can certainly be achieved with the assistance of a key veteran Leisure consultant (Peter Alexander) whose work helped make Walt Disney World Orlando the success that it is today.

The same rides we have come to love at the park will remain, along with several new being added as there will be an entirely new theme for the park and a 2nd park added which will be apart of the redevelopment and expansion plans. The two themes for each park will coincide it's going to be the best of both worlds.

I have launched one of what will be multiple campaigns, I am always looking for help as help doesn't always come in the form of donations. That being stated if any are interested in becoming involved in our street team please feel free to reply or reach out to me on one of the provided links.

To find out more visit my facebook 'OutbackOasisPark' is the username, or search it on Indiegogo.

Also keep in mind even if you can't donate, helping spread the word on this project does just as much good. Let's help save Myrtle Beach's attraction industry and keep theme parks alive!

 

[furie]

I've just had a look into this.

So this is just raising money to produce a feasibility study and business plan to look at buying the park out?

If you don't have the $17,000 for this stage, where are you hoping to get investment where a company with money and a track record couldn't? If it was feasible, surely the money would be forthcoming?

 

[outbackoasispark]

The $17,000 I'm looking to raise isn't necessarily for creating a new stage within the park that is for the redevelopment and expansion AFTER a Feasibility study has been conducted, a business plan, executive summary, and 3D visual model of my idea has been obtained from Peter Alexander.

With those items I can then approach not only banks but also Venture Capitalists to help get this project launched and set into motion.

I honestly cannot speak for FPI US LLC inability to attract investors as much as I wish I could I can't. I have just been following their history with the Park and Horry County does want to see the park re-open as well as the citizens in Myrtle Beach.

The way I intend to transform the park there is no way it will fail, as is it's already the biggest theme park left in Myrtle Beach and I want to make it bigger. It really didn't change much other than the name after it closed as Hard Rock Park so this is simply my assumption: The current owners are perhaps having a hard time finding new investors and also had a hard time keeping it open simply because they didn't know and still don't know what to do with the park to revive it and keep it alive.

Lets be honest with ourselves lets say Six Flags Over Georgia closed down for 2 years and then re-opened a year later with a different name but kept the same exact previous themes. Do you think it would be more successful keeping the same ride looks and theme the 2nd time around? I'd think the excitement would be somewhat depleted about the park if it re-opens with no new attractions or major changes.

Like most movements and projects if they start from the ground up and gain more traction this also alerts investors because currently the project may look risky to a handful of investors who do not solely want to put a majority of the funds on a project that might possibly fail, and if I'm investing in a company that foreclosed on a subsidiary of its own I personally would 2nd guess investing in the current holder myself.

I want to buy the park and free it of all ties to FPI US LLC all together as it failed under it's sister company FPI MB LLC. This will be a Park of the People, therefore I'm starting it from the ground up with the most important factor of all: People!

If and once opened say I came onto this forum for some constructive criticism regarding one of the rides; I would take that into account and make steps to improve it, not just ignore it and continue to let the ride be less fun than it could be!

I understand where you are coming from though Furie but no one wanting anything to do with an Amusement Park/Theme Park can approach venture capitalists without having a Feasibility study first. We all have to start somewhere, you know?

 

[outbackoasispark]

Bump 146 views not much discussion. Where is everyone?

 

[rollermonkey]

I'll tell you where I think everyone is: They see the topic, read and realize it's a pipe dream.

There's no real response to that.

This sounds exactly like the enthusiasts who wanted to reopen 6FNO, but didn't actually have any money.

Good luck.

I'm glad I got to go to the park when it was open.

 

[Lofty]

rollermonkey is correct for me. I just see this as some fan's fight to open their own park and the chances of this actually happening, are pretty slim.

I just see it as trying to obtain money from enthusiasts to fund a dream of yours, which is not what a lot of us will be interested in.

I do hope you succeed and prove me wrong, but that's where I stand on it.

 

[furie]

I understand where you're coming from and I wish you all the best. We've seen the park fail though due to low numbers that have broken companies with a lot of their own investment already in the park.

To start with nothing and say "the idea will sell it" seems, as Rollermonkey says, a pipe dream.

So good luck, but I think you'll find it har dto find an investor willing to take on all of the risk personally without any risk coming from you.

Have you tried getting monetary support from all the local businesses who would benefit? If you want it to be supported by the locals and for the locals and benefiting the locals then they should easily be able to raise the initial funds. If they're not willing, then you're already fighting a losing battle. Obviously, that would involve physical meetings with the local business, residence groups, etc and not just web donations. If a lot of people are brought in locally (and on paper) then it would give the project the credence it needs maybe?

 

[Gavin]

Bump 146 views not much discussion. Where is everyone?

The topic's had about as much discussion as it deserves, maybe more.

 

[Ben]

Sorry, I gave all my money to a Nigerian Prince last week.

 

[outbackoasispark]

@ Furie thank you for your kind insight and that is definitely what Is within my plans, hey maybe I'll upload few videos from some of these meetings so a lot of people will know I mean business and am very serious about making this materialize.


We all have to believe in something and I thank those who are supporting in this thread as you have given me your time and that within itself is more precious than a donation. I don't see this as much so as a pipe dream and I'm sure people who organize web donation foundations for things such as "Stop Bullying" or "Fund to End Poverty" or "Fund to feed Starving children in third world country" missions don't think what they are doing is a pipe dream. Sure they may not be able to stop every bully or provide for every person in need but they believe they can and that is a start.

Investment will come from my end as well to provide risk for the investors but before I can even approach investors I need 4 important things: A Feasibility Study, Business Plan, Executive Summary, & a model of the 2 Parks to be created. The campaign I'm embarking on is to raise money to contract Peter Alexander of The Totally Fun Company (Designed rides for Universal Studios) who would provide all 4 of those services and also offer advice in negotiating with venture capital firms as The Totally Fun Company does everything from designing rides to master planning of theme parks to producing shows and building family entertainment centers.

http://entertainmentdesigner.com/featured/interview-with-peter-alexander-of-the-totally-fun-company/

He learned from Walt Disney Imagineering's top guys like Walt like Blaine Gibson, Wathel Rogers, Rolly Crump, John Hench, and Marty Sklar. So I don't see how it would fail with the plans I have if I have the Totally Fun Company handling the layout. I do have some people in my family that has worked as Land Surveyors and in Heavy Construction for their life long careers, so I would also have them as additional help, so I'm not necessarily starting with absolutely nothing. I guess I will just have to make a couple of videos and let you guys see for yourselves!


@ Ben Fortunately I'm not a Nigerian Prince and scamming is the last thing I'm thinking about. I just want to point out that a lot of these web donation accounts will not setup a campaign for just anyone unless they have a valid AND verified Debit/Credit Card from a Bank within and operating out of the USA which I do and verification I have done. So any attempts to scam innocent people can be traced easily, but thank you for stopping by regardless! :--D

 

[rollermonkey]

You have a credit card?

Me, too!

Does that mean I can reopen a failed amusement park, too?

I do wish you luck, but I think that you've got a long road ahead if you don't have investors willing to put up millions of dollars, let alone $17,000.

$17K is probably not enough to even get the outstanding water bill paid, let alone electricity, feasibility studies or open a second gate? (seriously? The #1 complaint was that there wasn't enough in the park, and you're ready to open a second park?)

Again, good luck with your kickstarter or whatever, but you should probably just accept that Family Kingdom is all that Myrtle Beach is going to have for a while.

The real shame is that Pavillion thought that Hard Rock Park was going to kill them. They were so wrong, it is truly sad.

 

[outbackoasispark]

I agree it is a long road ahead but I'm not going to let that be why I should give up or abandon this project all together.

The Pavilion that is there isn't the original Pavilion, the Nostalgia Park is a remnant of the original which I hated to see get tore down myself.

If I can't get it done maybe I can at least draw enough attention to keep the same fate that befell the original Pavilion from befalling the former Hard Rock Park.

I have already contacted Peter about this project and he was the one who quoted me the $17,000 for this project so it would actually be just enough to get this project set in motion. Others I contacted wanted to charge more for LESS, mainly because I would have to pay their traveling expenses. Being Peter really isn't that far from SC the fees are less compared to the others I contacted, some were out on the West Coast.

Again the feasibility study is what you need before you can approach investors AND Venture Capital Firms to gain "millions" in funding, so I know how this goes

From what I gather the park failed for numerous reasons; not having many rides, prices being too high, and bad management being the main factors. My plans for the park is nothing like what has ever been in Myrtle Beach and if it comes to fruition could be Charlotte Carowinds competitor.

The 2nd park is only going to be a water park and will have interactive waterslides like 'Dolphins Plunge' at Aquatica and 'Loggerhead Lane'. To keep costs down and to make it a lot more attractive to visitors just like Carowinds includes Boomerang Bay in regular admission price, so will Outback Oasis Park. There is also going to be Carnifest a similar event to Scarowinds but I will have some musicians that are pretty well known to add to Halloween the theme, so live performances will be there, fireworks, neon-light parade shows, and aside from the marine life for the water park the main park will have Zoo animals about.

Lastly, I only mentioned a credit card because of someone mentioning the possibility of being scammed, I guess we all forgot our Social security #'s and billing addresses all have to match up as well as other account verification procedures to avoid your funds being froze, so this is quite primitive to bring up.

 

[Gazza]

Lol what's with the random monkey and chihuaua? Is that supposed to be a serious logo?
Where does the name "outback oasis" come from?

 

[rollermonkey]

I know about the Myrtle Beach Pavilion and the "nostalgia park".

Pavilion got scared. They thought HRP was going to kill them. They thought that they were going to lose all the customers to the bigger, newer park across town. It was a successful, thriving business and they chose to shut down and cash out instead of (what they thought would be) a long painful death spiral.

The sad part is since they had a CLUE how to survive and thrive in Myrtle Beach, they might have actually killed HRP faster than it eventually lasted.

HRP did a LOT of things wrong. I think a HUGE element was that they did virtually ZERO advertisement. Either they were already out of cash, or they forgot to budget for it, but there were no TV ads, nobody I know in SC ever heard a radio ad, there were no print ads, just a minimal internet presence. I went to 3 or 4 different Hard Rock Cafes that year, and NOT ONE PERSON at any of them had any clue that there was a major amusement park opening based on the restaurant chain. Nothing in the menu, official HRC website, not even a 25-cent cardboard stand-up on the table.

Then you get to the over high price, hours that didn't make sense in a beach resort community, smallish overall number of attractions (especially for what they were charging to get in at the beginning) and word of mouth quickly spread that it wasn't worth it. When you have no advertising painting a positive picture and word of mouth is mostly negative and the economy is crashing all over, failure is a certainty, it's just a matter of time.

They almost had the money to pull it off, but they were a little short.

I hope it can somehow come back. I enjoyed my day there, and there was a good foundation, but where is the growth potential? Did somebody bulldoze the neighboring businesses so it isn't landlocked any more?

Bleh.

/rant

 

[outbackoasispark]

Didn't you read the flyer? The park is going to have animals, you know like Busch Gardens? That's where the Monkey comes in, Chihuahua is there w/ balloons due to fact Theme Parks = Fun and like at most theme parks it's pet-friendly and will have an area you can leave your pet while you go enjoy the park. There will also be clowns and face painting here as well and balloon animals for the kids.

Outback = There will be animals from the Outback such as Kangaroos, Wallaby's, Koalas, Emu's etc not all of them will be from Australia but a majority to help give it an Outback tropical feel. As there will be animals from Madagascar like Lemurs, Indri's, Blue Coau's, & Peacocks just to name a few to help give you the overall general idea. Possibly even an Outback Steakhouse restaurant mate!

Oasis = It's by Myrtle Beach, have you ever seen the Ocean front view here?

Let's try and keep this professional people.

 

[outbackoasispark]

Your exactly right Roller, Pavilion could have lasted but it's like you said they thought HRP was going to steal their glory which honestly I know wouldn't have been the case because they were right there on the Oceanfront where a majority of the tourists and basically most of the Myrtle Beach population dwells.

I think Pavilion could have remained even until today, of course there would be no Nostalgia because the original would still be standing if anything Family Kingdom would have probably went down.
Back onto HRP, you are again right they did not do any advertising, I myself only became aware of the park by randomly googling theme parks and I did find articles about it's grand-opening but I was feeling left out because usually like you mentioned TV ads or Radio usually gets the awareness out better. The price for the few rides that were offered again turned several away and honestly made Family Kingdom look more attractive. I plan on getting a lot of rides added in and it's going to go too well with the theme I have in mind. I'll be sure effective advertising is presented, and not just locally.



Compared to whats available now the Pay-per-rides, Family Kingdom/Myrtle Waves, and the Nostalgia Park it just leaves someone like myself yearning more. It's very saddening because we know and can tell from track record Myrtle Beach is a very good area for business given the right conditions.

 

[Gazza]

Let's try and keep this professional people.

Yeah but the thing is it was just a random collection of crappy google images of inconsistent graphical styles, stuck on a background. Doesn't seem professional at all and would scare off investors. That's why I was asking.

 

[Lofty]

That logo is terrible, that's all I'm gonna say..

 

[furie]

I was just about to post, saying that I don't think there is anywhere near enough "depth" to this, but then maybe I'm missing something?

Didn't you read the flyer?

The question is, what flyer? I've checked out the Facebook page and the "donation" page, but other than that, I don't see anything at all. It's just a vague idea and a couple of very poorly put together photo-shopped images.

There's no cohesion, there's no work at all (that I can see) beyond maybe half an hour or so to set up the pages and make a couple of images.

Where's the official page giving all the details? Where's the description of the plans? Where is your time line for things to happen? Just anything at all beyond something any one of us here could produce in practically no time.

Now, maybe you have all of these things, but I can't find them. So that's an issue right away if the things are there but nobody ever knows about them.

If you want people to take you seriously, then you have to give them something to put their faith in. You want people to give you $15 based on half an hour's work? No way.

I did say this before, you have to be investing yourself for people to believe in you. You can't just expect to have everything handed to you on a plate.

I helped to run a campaign to save Southport Pleasureland (it closed and was demolished in 2006/2007). The campaign had a dedicated domain name, a dedicated site (I built the site for the campaign), a discussion forum and the backing of English Heritage who we worked hard with to produce massive amounts of documentation.

While the domain name and web hosting cost a little, everything else was volunteer and hard graft. It moved quickly and within weeks everything was in place, we had the guy running the campaign in the local media and on TV. It was a solid "thing". If we'd asked for donations (we never did), then at the very least people would have been aware that we existed, that there was something solid for people to put into. They could see that we were active and working hard and not afraid to invest $30 into a website and get on board volunteers who could present at least a semi-professional front for the campaign.

People just won't accept this as a serious proposal if there is no substance. No matter how much love the project and take it seriously personally, it has to come across to everyone else. If it's something people can believe in, then you'll pick up others with skills who can help to push the project. The thing then gathers momentum, but people need to see that something is being done, that there is firm commitment to the cause.

As it stands, this just isn't there. I can't see any reason to invest, and by the looks of the $0 invested so far, neither can anybody else.

I'd wish you good luck, but this needs more than luck. At the moment it's like you've gone fishing with a bit of string, a bent nail and nothing else other than a desire for a huge fish supper. Then once you've proven you can catch one fish, you'll get the money given to you to set up your own Atlantic fishing fleet. Sadly, with your initial equipment and effort you've never going to net anything.


Obviously, if you do have a full website, brochures, ideas, semi-formed business plans, letters of support from the local businesses and community, support from local media outlets, etc, etc, etc and I've missed them, then you still need to be advertising all those things to the hilt. Don't hide your light under a bushel.

So I'll not wish you good luck, I'll just follow this for some evidence that there's serious intent to make it worthwhile commenting on further.

 

[Martyn B]

and like at most theme parks it's pet-friendly and will have an area you can leave your pet while you go enjoy the park.

I dont know if thats a typo, or not, but I haven't seen many pet-friendlys parks before. Anyway, I dont know how the jolly folks in the US are with their pets, but I wouldn't even think about taking a dog to a theme park, let along taking it to be left in some animal cresh for the day.