Have you ever seen a non-duel-lift shuttle? or any of the swing lunch back towers? Because they all have a ton of track higher than what the train ever reaches. Pantheon might have a 178 foot spike, but I assure you, none of the train gets that high.
but this is not them, this is cedar point revamping top thrill dragster in 2024
I sure hope they build a spike taller than what the train will reach. I've seen what happens when they don't.
"I'm not going on Top Thrill Dragster 2.0. It isn't safe!”
I mean if Orion isn't a Giga then Phantoms Revenge isn't a hyper. I've always preferred it this way round where it's based on drops not heights.
Hypers, Gigas should be based on Drop height not Structure height. Hypothetically you could have a junior coaster that's first turn goes out over the edge of a 200ft cliff. As long as theres a support that reaches all the way to the bottom of the cliff then that junior coaster has just as much claim to being a hyper as magnum (which doesn't have a 200ft drop either)
Anyway getting dragged away on a bit of a tangent there.
True. But a bit of a technicality when the bit the train reaches its highest point in is a shuttle really.
I think we can all agree parks will always go with any dumb record they can think of.
Although my favourite kind of anti record must be SDCs new rapids ride being advertised as the tallest rapid rides in the western hemisphere (itself a dumb record) despite the fact as far as anyone I've spoken to can tell there isn't a taller one in the eastern hemisphere either.
I have no skin in the game either waySo I base it off of height because it was always based off that for the longest time. I never considered Apollos or Phanny a hyper. Did they have Hyper drops? Sure. But height wise, which should be the standard IMO for.. HEIGHT.. they are what they are measured as. I wouldn't call a 475ft drop off a cliff a strata based on height.
But the Orion Giga argument is always a fun tangent one because people get SASSY about it when you say my viewpoint.
they're pointless industry terms that don't actually mean anything. 
would you count the hypothetical junior coaster mentioned in my previous post as a hyper? Or for that matter Manhatten Express ( or Big Apple Coaster as it is now) since that's 200ft tall but with a 140ft drop.So I base it off of height because it was always based off that for the longest time. I never considered Apollos or Phanny a hyper. Did they have Hyper drops? Sure. But height wise, which should be the standard IMO for.. HEIGHT.. they are what they are measured as. I wouldn't call a 475ft drop off a cliff a strata based on height.
But the Orion Giga argument is always a fun tangent one because people get SASSY about it when you say my viewpoint.
(also just playing devil's advocate here btw xD)
So I base it off of height because it was always based off that for the longest time. I never considered Apollos or Phanny a hyper. Did they have Hyper drops? Sure. But height wise, which should be the standard IMO for.. HEIGHT.. they are what they are measured as. I wouldn't call a 475ft drop off a cliff a strata based on height.
But the Orion Giga argument is always a fun tangent one because people get SASSY about it when you say my viewpoint.
Not to mention it's all set in a ridiculous unit of measurement that only the USA, Liberia Myanmar and the always confusing UK (sometimes) really use.
I, for one, think we should stick to measuring by rods and parsecs.Not to mention it's all set in a ridiculous unit of measurement that only the USA, Liberia Myanmar and the always confusing UK (sometimes) really use.
I propose we just use the prefix Big... They are all Big Coasters.... Done.
I recall many a person were upset at Hyperion's unveiling that the drop was "only" 270ft making it not quite marketable as a 300ft giga. In Poland.Not to mention it's all set in a ridiculous unit of measurement that only the USA, Liberia Myanmar and the always confusing UK (sometimes) really use.
I propose we just use the prefix Big... They are all Big Coasters.... Done.
On the British rail network the distance down the track from the terminus station is for some reason still measured in Chains. Since roller coasters have a track and a station I don't see why this shouldn't apply here too.
Aaaaand Tony Clark showed up at the PointBuzz forums and said (among other things) that the "website leak" is absolutely fake.
Kings Island is my home park so I'm wayyyy too used to space themes. Still looking forward to more news about this coaster, I hope we get another record breaker!
