tomahawk
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Re: Are the major chains greed destroying guest satisfaction
You mention Riddler with three trains. They actually sent one train to I think whatever they renamed Iron Wolf to at SFA so they only have two trains now, and 45 minutes in the station with one train isn't that bad for that ride sadly. Stand ups are very slow loading because you have kids jump when seats lock and think its funny when they have to unlock them.
The amount you are wrong about X is astounding. The ride has had so many problems over its lifespan, the simple fact that it still stands is a testament to the parks dedication to the ride. In 08 when they did the conversion the trains alone were $5 million. The ride itself, after all costs of trains, redesigns, etc. Has reached over $100 million allegedly. It's a concept that is still too advanced for the tech they have, although barely.
Full throttle, my opinions on that have been shared so many times that it leaves me blue in the face. The coaster cost I believe $5 million or so, guess what, by building that, they were able to have TC be what it is.
Now let's go to the how all corporate chains are evil. Realize the size of parks you are talking about. First, because I'm shocked nobody has mentioned it, you have Disney. Now think harder. Guess what, most of their rides are "sponsored" by X company. Yet they have been left out of the loop of this conversation, why? Because they hide their marketing.
What may surprise some of you is running a theme park costs a lot of money. Electricity isn't free, water isn't free, and land, especially for those big parks isn't free. Comparing beech bend to any six flags is moronic in terms of marketinf, prices, etc. Bend has what, 3 coasters, sorry creds, and any given Six Flags has 10+. Compare the costs of said additions as well. Exactly. Return on mother **** investment yo.
Is the train wrap annoying and ugly as hell? Yes. Are the parks adding new attractions yearly? Yes. Remember the Shapiro years when the big addition for the chain was a water slide? They didn't properly market, got over extended, got **** hard by the recession, filed for bankruptcy, and now you see what the parks look like as a way to survive.
Don't expect a park that gets 1/10 visitors to operate the same as a park that attracts from the major cities and other countries. Guess what, Hans and his random German family are much more likely to go to a six Flags on vacation than Holiday World. Fact.
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2012Jarrett said:I find Six Flags to be way worse than Cedar Fair. I found literally everything at Magic Mountain to be way overpriced ($15 for a small Sprite and a slice of **** pizza? Really? Especially when it was 7$ at Beech Bend?), I've always found the employees to be rude, and I really didn't like how they would make it seem like you need lockers for their rides, especially when I bought one for Batman taking them seriously and it didn't work so I had to buy another. I remember when we went to SFOG when I was twelve my ten-year old sister was on the verge of heatstroke and they tried to use it as an opportunity to sell us a cold bottle of water instead of trying to get her the help she needed. I remember spending 45 minutes in Riddler's station because the were too cheap to not run one train, something I find inexcusable on a B&M that runs three trains. Full Throttle itself is a fantastic ride, but I feel like it's the perfect example of their mindset. They bought it because it was cheap and easy to market and then had stuffy guys in suits in some boardroom decide to put YOLO and the like all over it because "that's what the kids these days are into!" Both YOLO and X2 felt like short, relatively cheap rides that would have marketable gimmicks trying to squeeze bang for their buck at all...
Cedar Fair I feel is better but just barely. I hate that they make you get a locker for more and more coasters and I don't think that relatively basic-looking Rougarou tumbler is worth $20. I'd much rather wait the ten seconds extra it takes for one train to stow their stuff than buy a 2$ locker.
You mention Riddler with three trains. They actually sent one train to I think whatever they renamed Iron Wolf to at SFA so they only have two trains now, and 45 minutes in the station with one train isn't that bad for that ride sadly. Stand ups are very slow loading because you have kids jump when seats lock and think its funny when they have to unlock them.
The amount you are wrong about X is astounding. The ride has had so many problems over its lifespan, the simple fact that it still stands is a testament to the parks dedication to the ride. In 08 when they did the conversion the trains alone were $5 million. The ride itself, after all costs of trains, redesigns, etc. Has reached over $100 million allegedly. It's a concept that is still too advanced for the tech they have, although barely.
Full throttle, my opinions on that have been shared so many times that it leaves me blue in the face. The coaster cost I believe $5 million or so, guess what, by building that, they were able to have TC be what it is.
Now let's go to the how all corporate chains are evil. Realize the size of parks you are talking about. First, because I'm shocked nobody has mentioned it, you have Disney. Now think harder. Guess what, most of their rides are "sponsored" by X company. Yet they have been left out of the loop of this conversation, why? Because they hide their marketing.
What may surprise some of you is running a theme park costs a lot of money. Electricity isn't free, water isn't free, and land, especially for those big parks isn't free. Comparing beech bend to any six flags is moronic in terms of marketinf, prices, etc. Bend has what, 3 coasters, sorry creds, and any given Six Flags has 10+. Compare the costs of said additions as well. Exactly. Return on mother **** investment yo.
Is the train wrap annoying and ugly as hell? Yes. Are the parks adding new attractions yearly? Yes. Remember the Shapiro years when the big addition for the chain was a water slide? They didn't properly market, got over extended, got **** hard by the recession, filed for bankruptcy, and now you see what the parks look like as a way to survive.
Don't expect a park that gets 1/10 visitors to operate the same as a park that attracts from the major cities and other countries. Guess what, Hans and his random German family are much more likely to go to a six Flags on vacation than Holiday World. Fact.
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