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Anonymous

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^ Go there and ride them for yourself before you start criticising it...
 
SnooSnoo said:
And to generalize all OH people as 1. being a KI fanboy and 2. Loving the ride.. is a fail. Personally, Waldameer is my home park, and I know quite a few people who didn't enjoy the ride.
Yeah I know I mentioned that in a fail way. Basically, a lot of people that have KI as their home park and haven't ridden much else will most likely vote Diamondback #1. Same with Canada's Wonderland last year...and most other coasters. That's why a lot of new coasters rank high in their first few years (also because a lot of people travel to ride them).

While some people like Diamondback and some people think it isn't a big deal, I don't think the new trains are a great thing. Granted, I haven't ridden Behemoth, let alone any other B&M Hyper besides Diamondback, but I just don't think the rides are meant to have long two-across trains. Diamondback gave quite a bit of rattle and from the looks of other hypers, it seems that the four-across trains give much more forceful rides.
 
Hyde244 said:
The poll seemed to come out alright after all of the scandal, but it still seems absurd to have rides with such small ridership as Eagle's Fortress, Piraten/Kawasemi, Atlantis Adventure and Pyrenees rank so high.

Let the masses decide, not some small, self-proclaimed elite.
Why is it so absurd to let a ride stuck in the boondocks (i.e. Eagle Fortress) get its fair chance? Why shouldn't it be praised if it deserves that praise?

And I've been on Eagle Fortress and Atlantis Adventure...not as part of 'the elite' but by myself on a trip a few years ago.

They deserve that ranking, no question.
 

Nemesis Inferno

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jayjay said:
^ I think Mitch just grouped it in with most other Maurer spinners.
Well that's wrong cos it's a bloody unique layout... Same thing for Spinball...

Why does he have Crush's Coaster on there when it's the same layout as one of the basic models with a small added on section?
 

rollermonkey

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I'm a little surprised that EF didn't get the '*' this year, as two of the ballots it's on are blatantly fraudulent.

#354 and #364, if you want to look at those two for yourself.

Simply put, those two ballots list one steel coaster from every park listed on the ballot. No park on the ballot has two ranked coasters.

[shrug]
 

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Oh look! Space Mountain, Paris IS a pile of **** and the lowest ranking of all the Disney Space Mountain coasters by quite a wide margin. Now, where's that DLP topic gone...
 

Dave

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So a UK only top 10:

1. Nemesis, Alton Towers
2. Stealth, Thorpe Park
3. Speed, Oakwood
4. Oblivion, Alton Towers
5. Nemesis Inferno, Thorpe Park
6. Air, Alton Towers
7. Saw- The Ride, Thorpe Park
8. Knightmare, Camelot
9. Rita, Alton Towers
10. The Ultimate, Lightwater Valley

Air at no.6? Who the **** voted that up!?
 
The Southern California Top 10 Steelies: :(

1. Tatsu
2. Xcelerator
3. X2
4. Goliath
5. Riddler's Revenge
6. California Screamin'
7. Space Mountain
8. Silver Bullet
9. Scream!
10. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad

*sigh*


EDIT: Whoa! Gouderix isn't on the bottom anymore! :wav:
 

Snoo

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^Minus everything outside of SFMM.. it is close to right.. although X2 is better than Tatsu.
 
My SoCal Top 10 Steel...

1. X2
2. Goliath
3. Xcelerator
4. Batman The Ride
5. California Screamin'
6. Silver Bullet
7. Ninja
8. Montezooma's Revenge
9. Space Mountain
10. Viper

X2 is by far better than Tatsu.
 

Gazza

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Dave said:
Air at no.6? Who the <img> voted that up!?
I did :--D
It was my second favourite coaster in the UK (Behind Nemesis)...But I like flying coasters a lot, so it sat fairly highly in my list overall.
 

rollermonkey

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Nemesis Inferno said:
jayjay said:
^ I think Mitch just grouped it in with most other Maurer spinners.
Well that's wrong cos it's a bloody unique layout... Same thing for Spinball...

Why does he have Crush's Coaster on there when it's the same layout as one of the basic models with a small added on section?
In a word: Theming

Dark Knight, Exterminator and Scooby (Australia) all get separate ballot lines due to theming.

If we added a line for every coaster people want added, there'd be as many lines as there are coasters. I've seen the e-mails Mitch gets, it's rediculous. As it stands, the ballot process is cumbersome due to the huge number of coasters on the ballot. You can expect to see MORE grouped rides this year, not less.

For example, all you Schwarzkopf Shuttle Loop fans, now that Turbine is gone, you can expect those to be combined.
 
^ That's actually pretty disturbing. I know that the two shuttle loop variants (flywheel and weighted) run very differently, I wish there was a way to split those two up.
 

rollermonkey

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See? Everyone wants every coaster listed separately.

The ballot has over 300 lines, and it's pretty cumbersome for most people at this point.

Concerning the Schwarzkopf Shuttles: The highest ranked this year was Montezooma at #167. Shuttle Loop at Toshimaen was #196 and Greezed Lightnin' was #212. The other three didn't even have enough riders to make the list.

The only thing lost by combining them is our collective sense of nostalgia for when these were state of the art thrill machines.
 

Gazza

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rollermonkey said:
Nemesis Inferno said:
jayjay said:
^ I think Mitch just grouped it in with most other Maurer spinners.
Well that's wrong cos it's a bloody unique layout... Same thing for Spinball...

Why does he have Crush's Coaster on there when it's the same layout as one of the basic models with a small added on section?
In a word: Theming

Dark Knight, Exterminator and Scooby (Australia) all get separate ballot lines due to theming.
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Plus Scooby has a whole bunch of extra track and drops, a turntable, vertical lift.

But surley XC3000s are a special case because they are all completely different layouts. It's not like two shuttle loops that might run slightly differently.

I just don't get why the Maurers get singled out...

If we are to group these, then why don't we group all the B&M sitdown loopers?
 

Hyde

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loefet said:
^ Go there and ride them for yourself before you start criticising it...
I'm not criticizing the ride, I'm criticizing the system.

These polls are meant to represent the opinion of the masses, and not be "Robb Alvey's Sing Along as we Count Down his Top 10!"

Mountain Madman said:
Why is it so absurd to let a ride stuck in the boondocks (i.e. Eagle Fortress) get its fair chance? Why shouldn't it be praised if it deserves that praise?

And I've been on Eagle Fortress and Atlantis Adventure...not as part of 'the elite' but by myself on a trip a few years ago.

They deserve that ranking, no question.
Less than 2% of the polling audience rode Eagle's Fortress over the past TWO years (Eagle's Fortress did not operate for 2009).

What's more important, letting 13 riders trump the entire poll, or letting those with lower ridership counts be heard?
 

furie

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I understand what you're saying 100% Hyde, but...

Those with the higher counts, and with the ability (and want to travel to grab these obscure coasters show a high sign of commitment to the hobby.

You should be able to trust the opinions of those people in both their ability to recognise a good coaster, and their reputation as a "highly travelled" enthusiast.

It's up to you how much you really trust that I guess - but if EF really, REALLY is that good - then isn't it good that it's getting exposure and will encourage more and more people to seek it out.

Look at Boulder Dash, I'd have never given a thought about to going to Lake Compounce - I'd have just never heard of the place, or Boulder Dash if an enthusiastic few didn't rank it so highly to start off with. Word gets around - it's just that fortunately, Boulder Dash is easy to get to so numbers ramp up very quickly in rider terms.

Anyway, I know what you're saying, but it all has to be a case of balance, the few and the masses... Plus, I trust Loefet's and Gavin's views. If they say it's good - then it's good...
 

Martyn B

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I too think its a bit unfair to not include Dragons Fury as a seperate coaster. Especially as it used rank quite high from what I can remember. Was it not 60th, or 61st one year? (Random I know, but that just seems to ring a bell...)

I cant remember, but if it was originally on there as its own coaster, it should stay like that, surely.
 

rollermonkey

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^Because, over time, there just isn't room to include them all. It's not my call, it's not my poll.

But Mitch gets e-mails asking:
Why aren't all boomerangs or SLC's listed separately, too.
Why isn't the wildcat near me listed separately?
...and on and on.

They all ride differently. I've been on a couple SLC's that were great, I've even ridden a couple Zyklon loops that were pretty decent. It doesn't actually mean that they all need to be listed separately, does it?

I guess if you feel so strongly, you could make your own version of a poll. Personally, it doesn't bother me anymore, now that I understand the reasons behind his decisions.
 
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