Incredible Hulk - new credit or no credit?
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GuyWithAStick
Captain Basic
Re: Credit or no credit?
Definitely new! If you don't, it's like saying you don't count clones.
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Definitely new! If you don't, it's like saying you don't count clones.
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I will count it as new.
Over 90% is definitely brand new track (could be 100% but not sure on launch and station track) and with new trains and slightly differently designed track (I personally don't see the differences but apparently it's different in several locations).
GuyWithAStick makes a good comparison with clones. The original was scrapped, a new one was manufactured so unless you don't count clones then it's totes a new cred.
Over 90% is definitely brand new track (could be 100% but not sure on launch and station track) and with new trains and slightly differently designed track (I personally don't see the differences but apparently it's different in several locations).
GuyWithAStick makes a good comparison with clones. The original was scrapped, a new one was manufactured so unless you don't count clones then it's totes a new cred.
cjbrandy
Hyper Poster
I'm surprised that anyone thinks its a new cred but sort of understand where people are coming from. Its just so overwhelmingly similar to the original that I would find it shameful to count as a new cred had I rode the original. Its like counting Rougarou as a new cred when its just a repaint and train change or counting Galactica as new because it has a new name and is a VR experience.
Bat Fastard
Hyper Poster
Re: Credit or no credit?
I never thought of it like that.... This is a good point. I count clones, so yeah, me personally I would count this as a new cred, even though I never rode the original, so either way it doesn't really apply to me.GuyWithAStick said:
GuyWithAStick
Captain Basic
Here, I made a fairly simple chart to explain everything:
Going by the chart...
Hulk IS a new cred.
Rougarou is NOT a new cred.
Galactica is NOT a new cred.
Anything else is up to you to find out.
Going by the chart...
Hulk IS a new cred.
Rougarou is NOT a new cred.
Galactica is NOT a new cred.
Anything else is up to you to find out.
SaiyanHajime
CF Legend
I'm torn.
Roller Coaster Philosophy had a really good logic for this debate...
It has to meet 2 of these 3 criteria to be a separate cred:
- is made from mostly new materials.
- is in a different location.
- has a different layout.
Now, going by that... No, Hulk clearly isn't, but what makes hulk unique is that it is entirely new.
So, I dunno. I will probably count it as a new, because I'm a whore, but yeah. Not sure.
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Roller Coaster Philosophy had a really good logic for this debate...
It has to meet 2 of these 3 criteria to be a separate cred:
- is made from mostly new materials.
- is in a different location.
- has a different layout.
Now, going by that... No, Hulk clearly isn't, but what makes hulk unique is that it is entirely new.
So, I dunno. I will probably count it as a new, because I'm a whore, but yeah. Not sure.
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Can I count the woodies at Blackpool several times then? I know that Grand National and Big Dipper have had their entire layout replaced at least once since I first rode them in the early eighties. Rollercoaster (orange), misty have in that time too and it also has completely new trains and rides very different now. Same principle.
Same with The Scenic in Margate.
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Same with The Scenic in Margate.
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SaiyanHajime
CF Legend
Exactly Furie, that's the problem. I guess the difference with Hulk is that it is all in one go. There's one very obvious cut off.
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I'm reminded of the opening of this song:
[youtubevid]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTXGL0xPyLA[/youtubevid]
I... I don't think I would count it as a new cred. In my mind, a clone of a ride and re-tracking of a ride are different things. I do count clones, but I don't count re-tracking, and I think this falls into the latter group for me. Unless they've noticeably changed the layout (this covers RMC 're-tracking' as they do significantly change the layout), I don't think it should count as a new cred.
I wouldn't really object to anyone counting it though, as I can see the argument that you could.
Plus counting it twice would mess up my spreadsheet (if they're not going to rename it). :lol:
[youtubevid]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTXGL0xPyLA[/youtubevid]
I... I don't think I would count it as a new cred. In my mind, a clone of a ride and re-tracking of a ride are different things. I do count clones, but I don't count re-tracking, and I think this falls into the latter group for me. Unless they've noticeably changed the layout (this covers RMC 're-tracking' as they do significantly change the layout), I don't think it should count as a new cred.
I wouldn't really object to anyone counting it though, as I can see the argument that you could.
Plus counting it twice would mess up my spreadsheet (if they're not going to rename it). :lol:
GuyWithAStick
Captain Basic
^If it's just a retheme, it's not a new cred. It just means that there's new stuff around the tracks.