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Efteling: Baron 1898 Media Day

ThomVD

Giga Poster
Yesterday was the media day of Baron 1898 in Efteling, the new B&M dive coaster. I was invited to join and even get one of the first official rides. I was very excited, so I arrived at the park way too early. I got myself a wristband, ticket for the second row on Baron and this fab looking USB stick.

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I also had to dress up as a miner with a cap and a scarf, hilarious stuff. I was then escorted to a waiting area with plenty of food and drinks. I was standing there for a couple of minutes and then suddenly I saw a very familiar face... Xtremerides is probably the most famous Dutch theme park vlogger/youtuber and I'm a huge fan of his videos, so I couldn't stop myself and had to approach him. After having goon talks for about an hour, the event was about to start.

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After a short speech about what the plan for the event was, we were escorted to the ride area. Once we arrived there, the 36 first riders (including me) had to take their place next to the ride entrance. Unfortunately that wasn't exactly the VIP spot to see the opening ceremony. There were two screens where they played trailers and other stuff, but one screen was right behind a part of the track from our angle, and the other screen was out of sight too. We could also only see the backs of the people that were talking. It was still great to be there. DJ Hardwell showed off his remix of the ride music and CEO Fons Jurgens held a speech too. Then it was time to ride!

We were the first people to walk into the building but one thing that annoyed me is that they didn't show the pre-shows properly the first go, we could immediately get on the ride. Also a shame that I got on the second row, because dive coasters seemed much better in the front. That aside, it was such an honour to be one of the first riders! I will do a proper report on the ride during my second go on the front, but the first ride disappointed me slightly. I didn't get a good view of the drop because of the row in front of me, nor did the tunnel have any effect on me. The ride was glass smooth and all the elements were taken with good pace, but because of a couple of annoyances it was still a bit less than I'd hoped for. The fact that the ride lasts so short also didn't help. It was still a great ride though.

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But then...

Queue
To get a proper experience on the ride I immediately got in the queue again, this time for the front row. The short line was still moving slow, but I will get to that later. The queue itself is nothing special. It provides decent views of the ride, but the lack of shade is a major downside. Especially when it's 35 degrees during the official opening (and still a hot 29 degrees during the media day). After about 20 minutes I entered the building. They give you a ticket with the row you will be in when you move into the building. They constantly let 36 people in. Single riders get added to the group if there aren't 36 riders in yet.

Preshows (SPOILERS)
Let me start by saying I wasn't allowed to take photos inside the building, sadly. In any case, the amount of detail inside the building (that I didn't have time to have a proper look at during the first go) is quite incredible, and also overwhelming. It really takes multiple goes to notice every little thing. First you wait in a small room, but then when the group is complete the doors open and you enter the first preshow room (which is a well themed dressing room).

The show starts immediately. You hear Baron Gustave Hooghmoed talking to you about how you, miners, have to descent down to the mineshaft to find the treasures. They did an effort to make the ride more international, so foreigners don't need to worry. Sometimes he says some stuff in English, and if he doesn't there are usually screens with translations. They've really managed to make it all fluent without pulling you out of the immersion too much, which was a problem in the multi-language Belgian madhouses. Then the 'Witte Wieven' come in to spoil the party, and warn you about how you can't enter the mineshaft. High quality projections and some effects happen. The pre-show is quite short though, probably lasts about 2 minutes, and it doesn't hinder the capacity because you still need to wait for a bit before the next doors open. I could describe every little thing about the shows, but it's better to just see it in person. It's quite good, and not too long to be a burden whatsoever.

The second 'preshow' is hardly a preshow, but more an area where everybody gets assigned to their seats. You have to give the ticket you got at the entrance and then they assign you to your row. Meanwhile you see the Baron's animatronic, which while impressive was also a tiny bit robotic in his movement. He tells you more stuff about how you have to enter his cart to descent down the mine. Then, when the doors open you finally see the station, which is full of detail everywhere. From mining equipment, to a lever that they actually use for the dispatch!! That little thing just made me so happy <3 Then when you get on the trains you dispatch.

Before you actually go up the lift you get a little pre-lift preshow that maybe lasts 30 seconds. You see the Witte Wieven again to give you a last warning and to intimidate you further. Then the steam machine starts spinning, and so do the wheels at the top of the tower. Up you go.

So to conclude about the preshows. I was really worried about that it would make re-riding burdenous, but they really don't. They are short, flow well, and just give you something to look at during inevitable waiting times. They're brilliant and add to the immersion and overall experience.

Ride
The lifthill is very fast, and when you get to the top you can really notice how massive the wheels are. The bells start ringing both when you crest the top and the second before you drop. It's such a cool touch. The drop is just fantastic. Hanging over the edge seeing the drop go straight into thick mist is such a good moment of suspense. The height of the drop is perfect and while it packs a punch it also isn't too intense for a park like Efteling. Don't get me wrong though, it's a very thrilling drop and gets the job done. The mist and tunnel gives an amazing head/footchopper effect, and the combination of both of these things make this one of my favourite first drops I've done so far. Sadly I haven't ridden other dive coasters, but I don't think the drop has to be much bigger than this. It gets the job done.

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Then you get into the immelman straight away. Pulling up from the drop into that element is quite forceful and then the exit gives some good floater. Zero G Roll follows which is taken with good speed. It felt very similar to Black Mamba's zero G roll, which is a good thing! The helix that follows pulls some good Gs and is once again taken with high speed. The little hill at the end gives a surprisingly nice pop of airtime in the front and then it hits the brakes. Every single element delivers and is worthwhile. Despite that, it is still too short for my taste. It's over before you know it.

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Conclusion
As great as Baron is as a coaster, it does lower my expectations of Oblivion a bit. I just can't believe that one drop, no matter how much bigger it is, can make me love the ride. Baron's drop is the highlight of the coaster part, but every other element that follows is also good fun. The coaster, coupled with incredibly immersive theming make Baron an excellent attraction. There aren't many coasters that combine world class theming with an actual high quality coaster part. And for that reason it deserves a spot in my top 10.

Capacity is a problem though. I'm still not sure why, but the coaster doesn't hit the capacity that it can potentially get. The line moves slow, and the queues build up fast. I hope this will get sorted one way or another, but be prepared to queue for 120ish minutes the first couple of months.

How do I rank it compared to other coasters? Joris en de Draak is still my favourite coaster in Efteling, ride-wise. It just feels more satisfying and enjoyable. Black Mamba still rules in the theming department, although this one isn't far behind. But like I said above, the combination of coaster and theming make it one hell of a ride. Efteling have done an excellent job and have a new highlight in the park! They've managed to build a thrill ride that is still very much in Efteling style.

Pros:
-Excellent and detailed theming
-Immersive experience
-Good pre-shows
-Wonderful music both inside and outside the queue
-Smooth
-Fantastic first drop and tunnel
-Great pacing
-Good inversions

Cons:
-Capacity
-Short length
-Not THAT intense after the first drop is over
-Difference in quality between first row and second/third row
-Sound on the drop doesn't work, although the bell makes up for it

I give it a 9/10.

Have a few photos of the opening day:

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Here is the off-ride I filmed:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGb9-87Z16k[/youtube]
 

ThomVD

Giga Poster
Yes, he was standing next to us and even rode the same first ride. I couldn't care less though :p
 

TilenB

Strata Poster
^ Yeah, agreed. I'm kind of on a same train with you. Although I probably wouldn't annoy the guy too much, considering that the day is geared towards something entirely different. But, oh well, I could get the bragging rights that I've ridden the coaster with Hardwell, which actually isn't all that bad. :D

Great report, Thom. I just love in how much detail you went. Can't wait to ride the thing in September, the theming looks top notch and I believe the ride should deliver, although I'm not a big fan of Dive coasters myself...
 

Pink Cadillac

Giga Poster
Thanks for the great report! You never posted your outfit. :fadein:
The aesthetics are perfect - very Disney. I'm dying to see it in person. Shame it was underwhelming though. Do you get to see the pre-shows in the single rider queue? Do you know how quickly trains were dispatched?
 

ThomVD

Giga Poster
Thanks! It wasn't underwhelming at all though. The ride itself won't blow anyone who has ridden other dive coasters away, but it's still excellent. If you love dive coasters you'll love this one too, while this won't change your mind if you don't like dive coasters. The theming sets it apart from the others.

You get to see everything in the single rider queue too. The dispatch times depend, but I'd say a train dispatches every 1-1,5 minute. This seems to be improving though.
 

mouse

Giga Poster
This has probably been covered in the construction topic, but is the first drop a full 90 degrees? Doesn't look like it...
Thanks for the report and a really great description of the ride experience :).
 

ThomVD

Giga Poster
I'm pretty sure the drop is 87 degrees, similarly to the other smaller dive coasters (Oblivion, Oblivion: TBH, Krake). That is because the drop isn't big enough to feature a true 90 degree drop without it getting uncomfortable. I doubt you notice a difference while on the coaster though. It feels completely vertical.
 

andrus

Giga Poster
Great trip report Thom! The ride is indeed looking nice, albeit short. Love B&M DMs so I'm sure I would enjoy this one too :)

ThomVD said:
Conclusion
As great as Baron is as a coaster, it does lower my expectations of Oblivion a bit. I just can't believe that one drop, no matter how much bigger it is, can make me love the ride.
The thing is with Oblivions drop that it just keeps on going.. Since it's rather "small" looking above ground your really can't comprehend how big it is underground! It just seems to keep on going forever! Which is why it's so awesome :--D

ThomVD said:
I'm pretty sure the drop is 87 degrees, similarly to the other smaller dive coasters (Oblivion, Oblivion: TBH, Krake).
Krake has a 90° drop though? I'm almost 100% certain of that. Maybe they're not going for a full 90° to avoid the scare-factor?
 

ThomVD

Giga Poster
Thanks!
andrus said:
ThomVD said:
Conclusion
As great as Baron is as a coaster, it does lower my expectations of Oblivion a bit. I just can't believe that one drop, no matter how much bigger it is, can make me love the ride.
The thing is with Oblivions drop that it just keeps on going.. Since it's rather "small" looking above ground your really can't comprehend how big it is underground! It just seems to keep on going forever! Which is why it's so awesome :--D
Oh, I do believe the drop must be excellent. It looks awesome, the way it drops into the tunnel. That alone probably makes the drop better than the big American dive coasters which lack any sort of tunnel/hole. I just feel that one incredible element isn't enough for me to really rate a coaster highly. I love lengthy coasters. If it wasn't for the incredible theming of Baron, I doubt it would be in my top 10, as great as the ride is (while it lasts).

andrus said:
ThomVD said:
I'm pretty sure the drop is 87 degrees, similarly to the other smaller dive coasters (Oblivion, Oblivion: TBH, Krake).
Krake has a 90° drop though? I'm almost 100% certain of that. Maybe they're not going for a full 90° to avoid the scare-factor?
Both wikipedia and the official website of Heide Park say it's 87°. https://www.heide-park.de/attraktionen/ ... krake.html
And as I said above, I don't think anybody would notice those 3°. Looking at photos, Krake's drop does seem a tiny bit steeper than Baron, but maybe that's because of the angles the photos are taken from.
 

CookieCoasters

Giga Poster
Oblivion's drop is very good, but I would say that it's not enough to make it superior to any of the other dive machines I've been on. I'll likely prefer Baron 1898, simply because it has a more extended layout.

Really great, in-depth report/review though. I'm glad to hear the pre-shows aren't too long, but still of high quality. Is the queue just outside the whole time before them though? If so, that's a bit of a shame.
 

ThomVD

Giga Poster
Yes, the queue is a bit of a disappointment. Queues are still something that Efteling don't usually do too well, with the exception of Vliegende Hollander and to a lesser extend Vogel Rok. When you get to the entrance of the building, you get your seat ticket and then you get into the pre-show rooms. No more actual queuing once you're inside. The pre-show rooms are basically the equivalent of waiting inside the station behind a gate.
 

CookieCoasters

Giga Poster
^Ugh, that really is a shame about the queue. Definitely will avoid standing in it for anything near 120 minutes <//3. Hopefully it won't be as bad first thing on a morning and last thing on an evening because I'd like to ride it at least twice :)
 

ThomVD

Giga Poster
I've kept an eye on the queue times, and it does die down a lot during the afternoon/evening. Today and yesterday have been 40-60 minutes after the morning rush (which has been 120-150 mins), but that might have to do with the extreme heat. I've gone to opening day, had a sprint and only had to wait for 20 minutes for front seat, so I'm sure if you go there quickly first thing in the morning, you can avoid the queue. Then in the late afternoon/evening, prepare to queue for about an hour. Whatever you do, don't go there first thing at a slow pace, because in a matter of minutes it will hit 100+.

Now of course, the longer you wait, the more it loses the novelty factor and the shorter the queues will get. That might take a while though. When are you planning to go?
 

Serena

Miss CoasterForce 2016
Staff member
Social Media Team
ThomVD said:
It's over before you know it.
That could be the tag line for all Dive Machines apart from the Busch Gardens variety! Unfortunately, the majority of them have really short layouts.

That key USB stick is fab <3

Great report, it has made me more excited to ride Baron 1819! One question though, were they selling this lovely promotional poster in the tat shop? I really want one.

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ThomVD

Giga Poster
Radaxian said:
ThomVD said:
It's over before you know it.
That could be the tag line for all Dive Machines apart from the Busch Gardens variety! Unfortunately, the majority of them have really short layouts.
To be fair, Sheikra doesn't do a whole lot more than Baron and Gardablivion. It has a drop, immelman, second drop and a splash-down. Griffon is the same but has a second immelman. So basically the same amount of elements, just bigger and more drawn out. Shame that all the dive coasters have such short layouts. They could be so much more.

Radaxian said:
One question though, were they selling this lovely promotional poster in the tat shop? I really want one.

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Sadly Baron doesn't have its own shop :cry: Merchandise in Efteling has really gone downhill. I read somewhere that Baron will get its own section in the main shop (Efteldingen), but I had a look and couldn't find it. I did receive a magazine today exclusive for annual pass holders that features a fab similar poster. Totally made my day!

This one:
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CookieCoasters

Giga Poster
ThomVD said:
I've kept an eye on the queue times, and it does die down a lot during the afternoon/evening. Today and yesterday have been 40-60 minutes after the morning rush (which has been 120-150 mins), but that might have to do with the extreme heat. I've gone to opening day, had a sprint and only had to wait for 20 minutes for front seat, so I'm sure if you go there quickly first thing in the morning, you can avoid the queue. Then in the late afternoon/evening, prepare to queue for about an hour. Whatever you do, don't go there first thing at a slow pace, because in a matter of minutes it will hit 100+.

Thank you, that's really useful to know. I'll definitely make the effort to bolt it there straight away.

ThomVD said:
When are you planning to go?

We'll be there later this month, so I doubt queues will have died down. I believe we're going during the week, but that probably won't make much difference
 

ThomVD

Giga Poster
CookieCoasters said:
ThomVD said:
When are you planning to go?

We'll be there later this month, so I doubt queues will have died down. I believe we're going during the week, but that probably won't make much difference

If it would be okay with you and the people you're going with, maybe we can meet up? I'm not sure if I'm still home by then, going to Finland late July, but if I am, I'd love to meet more people :)

If not, I have a tip for you. Wait in front of the gate leading to Spookslot instead of the one going to the coaster area (Ruigrijk). Because of the ridiculous amount of people waiting at the latter gate, you will be unable to move fast unless you're at the front of the crowd. Much less people are waiting at the Spookslot gate and you can run to Baron quite fast from there. Check the map!
 

CookieCoasters

Giga Poster
ThomVD said:
f it would be okay with you and the people you're going with, maybe we can meet up? I'm not sure if I'm still home by then, going to Finland late July, but if I am, I'd love to meet more people

Just looking at dates, we'll be at Efteling on the 23rd. If that doesn't clash with your Finland trip, I would love to meet up. I'll be with my parents, but they'll be fine with it I'm sure :)
 
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