Re: #NE2k16://Quassyright Infringement, Boulder Smash (Day 2
Batfastard14 said:
One train operation strikes again. I always thought Boulder Dash looked kinda overrated. I'm going to guess now that your worst spite was Joker....
Yeah, one train at the entire park, it was quite annoying. And yes, it is overrated. I liked it a lot, don't get me wrong, but it's overrated. At 226 credits I have it as my #10 so one of the best in America? Maybe. Best in the world? Doubtful. But nope! Fortunately we got Joker, it was fab!
GuyWithAStick said:
Considering I love Viper so much, Boulder Dash seems like a ride I'd love. But who knows how long it'll be before I go to New England.
I'm excited to hear how SFGAdv went!
Voyage is way better, easily the best of the three giant terrain woodies in the States. Imagine Legend and Beast had a baby and Raven helped, that's Boulder Dash. Insane terrain action and a few Raven/Thunder Run-esque airtime moments. But by no means is it a smooth ride, no matter where you sit. But it's way worse in the back.
LiveForTheLaunch said:
got banished to the bathtub but at least we were sleeping together on this trip again!
When sleeping together really just means going to bed.. </3
That New England food looks amazing. Also, kind of surprised about your opinion of Superman. I think it's way stronger than Millennium Force in terms of airtime and just generally being relentless. Our opinions of Wicked Cyclone are pretty on par though.
I also think Boulder Dash is way overrated.
Well let's see...
Sleep- rest by sleeping; be asleep: "she slept for half an hour"
Together- with or in proximity to another person or people: "together they climbed the dark stairs"
On these trips, usually what happens is whenever we need rest, Emily and I just kind of cuddle up in the same bed together and drift off together, usually she falls asleep first. But by those definitions, sleeping together really just means falling asleep together. What else would it mean?
In all seriousness, though, yes. The food was phenomenal. As for Superman, I actually really did like it after it warmed up, it just provided a really weak morning ride. But once the sun goes down and it's all warmed up and the lighting effects are on it's something else. Had no desire to top ten it until after that night ride. But yeah, Wicked Cyclone. That's kind of something all enthusiasts that aren't Jer can agree on.
And yes, Boulder Dash was quite overrated.
DelPiero said:
Boulder Dash is definitely not running well then, it was the same when I rode it in October, but I got night rides so the front was amaaaaaazzziiiiinnnnngggg.
Hopefully Compounce will actually do some work on it this off season, as it's potentially a top 3 ride.
Top three? Not sure about that unless Alan decides to make that his playground. The only thing really wrong with it is the rough texture the ride provides when it runs over the rails, hence why I call it Boulder Smash. I could see it giving a good night ride, though. Not better than Voyage, but still good.
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Day 3
After a nice, long night of sleep, Emily and I got up and saw where we were in the light of day. Bumble **** , New Jersey. Completely rural and devoid of people yet idiots still manage to sneak their way in. I was dreading another day of dealing with gross Jersey people and dreading another Six Flags property, yet at the same time El Toro really had me excited. Chris has it as his number one overall and Emily has it as her number one wood, but at the same time I had heard from other enthusiasts that it was overrated, so I was anxious to form an opinion. Even though I thought it was going to be like Voyage's airtime-less first hills the whole ride.
We were by no means going it alone on this day. Kyle, a local in our Skype group who goes here so often he calls it his "playground" was going to be showing us around and acting as our guide. John from Jersey (same John from the Hershey trip and Morey's day) and Chris (a Hershey local who runs Keystone Thrills, not to be confused with the Chris who hosted us back in Massachusetts) had also arranged to meet us. Three's company, five's a crowd!
We're here! My first time and Emily's first time since she became an enthusiast in 2013! Kyle met us and we went in!
Just the fact that you get a free Six Flags ticket for joining ACE literally makes the club pay for itself. <3
Joker! Second New for 2016 cred of the trip!
The park looked like it was going to be slammed...
Look. Statues of dead white people. Culture. Enjoy.
My first complaint about Joker was that while it looks cool, it looks horrendously out of place. It's the first big thing you see when you enter the park. On its own it would be fine but in a spot appropriate for an Eiffel Tower/GateKeeper fixture, it looks tacky.
We decided to make our first ride of the day Nitro. This is a coaster that Emily loves to cite in her idiotic claim that B&M hypers have no airtime, but she said the same thing about Diamondback which literally had me out of my seat for ten seconds over just one hill a few nights before typing this. Told me to expect a rattle and no airtime, though she's one of those dumb enthusiasts that doesn't enjoy a ride unless it tries to kill her with force so I just kind of rolled my eyes. Even though Kyle was telling me the same thing.
It's true what they say, your girlfriend is always right. I like B&M hypers, while they may not be top-tier rides and while Intamin may do hypers better, I find them enjoyable and I never fail to get a good kick out of the one at my home park. However, Emily and Kyle were completely right about this one. I loved the station music, it got me really pumped up for a good ride full of sustained B&M hyper floater. But there was no floater on this one. It just kind of creeped over the hills, I felt myself levitate a few times but for the most part I was just chilling in my clamshell waiting for the airtime. I have very limited memories of Goliath and Apollo's Chariot having ridden them pre-enthusiast, but I'm sorry, what I remember was better than this. Easily the worst of the hypers. And I hear it's the best and have no idea what people are thinking.
Took another ride to see if I would like it better, and sadly, I didn't. Again, it just feels like you're waiting for airtime the whole ride that never actually comes. I love the station music and harsh industrial accents and that and the hype I heard for it made me think it would be my favorite of the B&M hypers but sadly, the opposite was the case. This goes down below Apollo as my least favorite, Behemoth still reigns supreme as my favorite of the breed.
Next we made our way to their kiddie area and knocked out Road Runner. Not too bad for a Zamperla death machine, but there was a bee buzzing around my car while I was strapped in and the ride op was taking her time dispatching us trying not to laugh at our comments. Despite Emily and I backloading it for the lulz, we got a normal ride on it.
Next up was cult favorite Skull Mountain! I hear bad things about this coaster, however, I know a certain few enthusiasts have it in their top tens as a tiny but dedicated fanbase. The theming in the station was cool but on the ride it was tacky. But the ride didn't need it. For a tiny indoor family coaster, this thing is aggressive! Really brisk and fun, almost like a toned down Cheetah Hunt in a sense. I was laughing so hard the entire time!
Up next was a Batman clone, and they didn't even take care of the theming. </3
Yet another worst B&M of its type I've been on! I already don't like these rides. They're pointless force machines that do nothing interesting and just pound you with force the entire ride. Vile enthusiasts who only enjoy a ride if they grey out and call the ride trash if they don't (same people who have I305 as a number one) lose it over these, and the mere existence of this model only perpetuates one of the most annoying enthusiast behaviors I encounter in the hobby. However, the reason I let this one have the spot at the bottom of my invert rankings is because it takes this perpetuation of an annoying stereotype and adds something else I hate, headbanging. This B&M beat the crap out of me! Hit my head multiple times going around, so it was just my feet tingling and my head being bashed the whole ride. Oh well. Those morons I'm talking about don't even mind a rough ride, they'd marathon an SLC if it were intense. Sorry, rant over. But this is the poster child for coasters enjoyed by the most annoying enthusiasts on the planet.
Next up was the second of four Batman-themed rides here, Dark Knight!
Oops, wrong picture.
Okay, there it is!
You go in and are treated to this really cool pre-show featuring a news broadcast.
And Kyle was kind enough to mouth the entire thing because he knew it by heart.
The climax of the show is when the lights go out and the Joker hijacks the broadcast and these "HA HA HA"s appear on the wall. Quite atmospheric, actually.
Sadly, the actual ride left much to be desired. This definitely belongs in that "queue is better than the ride" thread we had a bit ago. It's a standard indoor cred in a shed wild mouse with broken theming. The only thing that got me was the subway train gag at the end, Emily and Kyle were nice enough to sit me near it but I had heard it activate in the station and it's obvious it's right there. Startled me a little but I didn't poop myself like Emily said I would.
Get that Team Mystic board away from that crap cred! And move the Instinct one closer and put the Valor one on it!
Next we rode the Skyride over to the other side of the park to clean it out.
It's quite nice, actually. Some lovely views of the park to be had up here.
We'll be back for you later!
Here we are!
Runaway Mine Train was our next stop and I didn't really care for it. Felt like a longer, rougher Trailblazer.
Smidge of airtime here, though.
Up next was the final featured cred of the trip, El Toro!
I would have to say this is one of Six Flags's better theming jobs. Between the station, posters in the queue, bull statue, they really made sure a theme was present on this one.
Wow! That really surprised me, I wasn't expecting to like it as much as I did! The airtime going over the first two hills is insane Skyrush-style sustained ejector (though not nearly as powerful), that drop into the turnaround was absolutely relentless, the Rolling Thunder hill was amazing, and the ride had a nice aggressive Cheetah Hunt-esque finale. Not to mention you can literally hear the upstops ringing against the track as it flies over those hills! This is a wonderful coaster, I put it below Voyage after my first couple of rides on it!
After that we went to Macho Nacho to get some Mexican food when Chris and John showed up. The food here was actually really good, much better than typical Six Flags offerings. Not horribly priced, either.
After lunch we headed to Superman: Ultimate Flight, or to me, Phobia: Phear Coaster. For those of you who are unaware, my claustrophobia and flyers do not go well together. I spent the entire duration of the ride freaking out holding onto Emily's arm. And screamed at the ride ops to hurry up when we were stacked on the brakes. All while Chris, John, and Emily practically pointed and laughed the whole ride. As for the coaster, it wasn't that bad. If the restraints weren't restrictive, this would be a good coaster. Though I prefer the one at SFOG due to the terrain. And Tatsu's still my favorite of a loathed coaster type. So again, least favorite B&M of its type! That's a threepeat for today!
Sadly, with this came a good punch to the childhood. Driving to Nashville to visit my dad's parents as a kid, usually we would have to right past Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom in Louisville. I always wanted to go but my parents had no reason, so we never made time for it. But I always thought it was so cool to see Chang towering over the airport from the highway. Well we get there, I finally get to ride this coaster, and whoops! Green Lantern is down for the day! All these years later and all I can do is still just look at it and wish I could be on it.
Why couldn't it have been the other B&M right next to it that was out of commission?
However, a childhood fantasy of mine was still about to play out. Since it opened, I had wanted to ride Kingda Ka. I liked the colors and how it looked going over that airtime hill back when I was still a kid playing RCT2. I remember the year it opened watching a Travel Channel documentary on it as my parents stared at our old school cathode tube TV white in the face at this crazy machine they were seeing, as I sat over there thinking it looked like one of the most insane things ever built. And I was about to be on it. I was about to be those two guys finishing the ride and fist-bumping on that Travel Channel documentary.
At that point, I was liking it more than Dragster due to the theming. I liked how it was actually really well themed, despite Impractical Jokers ad wrap on one of the trains and the banners in the station. However, operations accounting for Zumanjaro were ridiculous. Hey Six Flags, next time get permission to run them both at the same time before advertising it as such?
Sadly, this took another bite out of my childhood. I think this ride is the perfect testament to how powerful kinetic energy really can be and how it needs to be controlled well if you're going to employ a lot of it. Was it intense? God yeah! That launch slammed me back into my seat, despite it not even holding a candle to Dragster's. The problem was the rattling. On its own, I could actually deal with it. However, when a ride is rattling that much going 100+ miles an hour and your ears are popping up high, it really just kind of shatters the whole experience of what would otherwise be a great coaster. Not to mention the twist up jerked the train so hard the pointless OTSR practically karate chopped my impingement syndrome-ridden shoulder. The shoddy maintenance of the trains and rattle just killed for me a ride I really wanted to like. And I really, really wanted to like this one. It's Kyle's number two steel, he marathons it, he was raving to us about how awesome it was, but to me I just couldn't like it. When you're forty stories in the air getting your shoulders bashed in a horse collar with your ears about to bust their eardrums it's physically impossible to be happy. I got off the ride seeing stars and forced Emily to rub my tender rotator cuff after that blow on the way up.
After feeling like the trains were about to be rattled apart to pieces, I thought Ka had to be the least safe thing in the park. Turns out I was dead wrong. As Emily says, Canadians are so nice because all their aggression goes to the Canada Geese. Honk.
The guys wanted to do Zumanjaro, or as I call it, ZumanjarNO. So we sat that one out.
I noticed that this hood to keep loose articles from flying out of Ka and striking someone on the Zumanjaro platform seemed a bit over engineered. Something I thought should be able to be done with that normal net mesh they hang around coasters was done with heavy steel mesh mounted on thick iron bars. Anybody know why the hardy safety hood? I don't have my degree yet but I doubt it needs to be that excessive...
Came myself over El Toro on the way back.
You are beautiful.
Back at home, us Kings Islanders have a tradition of offering out of towners the opportunity to get the Son of Beast cred by sitting in a shopping cart while we roll them out and back from that two-foot section of track that sticks out from the disused station. Looks like Great Adventure could do that with two creds here!
After that we went for the latest and greatest from S&S, The Joker!
The Joker features a spot of theming up front and anything from there back is just parking lot.
What theming that's there isn't that great. Honestly, kind of disappointing considering Six Flags usually puts at least some effort in their DC rides.
The colors are pretty, I'll admit.
The station is literally a piece of metal over concrete. Literally no theming in this station.
Joker selfie!
In the tradition of my never coming across an S&S I disliked, I really liked Joker! The lift freaked Emily out but I really did like it! Pretty violent flipping on the green side, comfortable seats and restraints (a first from S&S to me), glass smooth, and really freaky. Definitely better than Green Lantern at Tragic Mountain, I'd love to see Six Flags install more of these.
Standing under it is actually really cool, it looks pretty imposing yet wacky looming over you, it's the perfect coaster to be themed after one of the most twisted comic book villains ever.
I only wish the colors were reversed, that purple is lovely.
Fun fact: The purple side is way tamer than green, and it was mechanically intended so. If you look at some of these pictues, you'll see little metal fins sticking out of each rail. These fins spin the train, and there are way fewer on purple than there are on green. Six Flags doesn't advertise this, but multiple rides on this confirmed it to me.
Chris and John doing their thing!
They loved it!
Got no pics of the actual coaster, but we did newly rebranded Harley Quinn Crazy Train next. This will have to do for a picture. It was just another one of those Zierer family coasters with a stupidly long train, but that's not to say those aren't enjoyable. I got a kick out of it.
Tip: Careful with the restraint on this one. If it flips you forward on a valley and you're a guy, you will never have children. After this I made a statement that prompted Emily, John, Chris, and Kyle to clarify to me where babies came from. Not getting into specifics but I was extremely surprised what I found out, and I can now tell people I was given "the talk" at Six Flags!
We went over to the other side of the park and BAM!!! Rain's coming in, everything goes down!
With rain coming in, we all went to Six Flags's take on a Disney-style attraction, Houdini's Great Escape! I had never done a Vekoma Madhouse before but I kind of knew what they did. Meanwhile, Emily had never even heard of the ride type, so we all agreed on a "don't ask don't tell" policy on this one. If you know something about it, keep it to yourself until after the ride.
(And I literally just noticed the dude feeding another dude a tootsie pop in the bottom of the picture...)
Well that was quite freaky! My inner ear could tell exactly what was going on, but it really fooled my mind! I could never tell exactly how far forward or back we were pitched on this ride. Meanwhile, Emily was actually scared when we got into the ride and she saw pews with lap bars, thinking it was a type of show. Really liked it, though. Good mindless entertainment.
We went back over to the other side of the park and waited on Bizarro to open, considering it was the last cred we needed.
Everybody got a snack at the Western restaurant over by Mine Train and we all got a good laugh out of this. Though in their defense, if I had to find this sign and believe it at a Six Flags park, it would be at this one.
It was about two hours we had to camp out on the water waiting on that last cred of the trip to open back up.
We walked up to this and the first thing I see of this Superman-themed ride is this...wagon?
Literally the most random theming I've ever seen in my life. I know this was called Medusa at one point, okay. But where did this mining/western theme come in? Pretty certain Six Flags just had a few props sitting around and wanted to shoehorn them in somewhere.
Cool little board filling us in on the Bizarro character.
This floorless always left me really skeptical. I hear it's one of the best, but Scream, the worst B&M I've been on, was cloned from this. Therefore, it's like Scream but older. I was prepared for the worst, however, this one wasn't as bad. That isn't to say I didn't get my head whacked a few times, but it's not the dumpster fire in a parking lot Scream is. On the ride, the theming was actually kind of cheesy and fab, none of that weird Medusa Mining Company crap. I think Dark Knight was the better of the two on this trip, but this isn't a bad ride. Fairly generic, but not bad.
Park cleaned out! Let's get some El Toro action!
Sadly, this dropped El Toro in my rankings. We did it twice. The first time, I sat on a wheel and it really drilled some nasty vibrations into my spine at the bottom of the ride's fabulous turnaround. Second time I sat in the back and got stapled and the restraint tried to sucker punch me in the gut multiple times throughout the ride. I walked off feeling very disappointed by this.
Decided to head back over and give Nitro one more shot. This was its last chance to impress. We rode in the back, during a beautiful sunset, the tracks were nice and wet, and it had been warmed up. If it was going to give us anything good, it was going to give us something good on that ride. And it didn't. Sorry, but Nitro just didn't live up to the hype for me. It remains my worst hyper, it barely managed to keep us out of our seats over the entire hills except for on those pops at the end. Sorry Nitro, my girlfriend was right about you. You're a deadbeat.
Beautiful shot of two pretty useless B&Ms.
Joker against a sunset coming back over <3
This ride on the Skyride was beautiful, and getting to share it with Emily was outright special.
I knew the front side of the park would be special at night considering how pretty it is.
There's something about sunsets at parks that just makes them always gorgeous.
I got that itch to get pictures of the trademark lake shot and held the whole group up. And I ain't sorry. <3
The lack of wind really allowed me to play with reflection in water, something I hardly get to do.
I'd ask someone to photoshop the gondola out of this otherwise great shot, but then I'd get things like explosions and flying augmented reality Pokemon and Donald Trump's wall paid for by Mexico blocking it out instead of just clear sky. Luckily I'm okay with clone stamp.
Only thing I hate about wooden coasters from a photography standpoint is that it's impossible to get the train doing something sweet most of the time.
This is one of the best opportunities for photos I think I've ever had at a park.
Getting artsy!
This guy decided to come over and terrorize my friends as I held them up.
Such dirty pictures of El Toro <3 <3 <3
Those Skyride cables are a **** to photograph around.
You kind of have to choose between a stray cable in your shot, Ka looking too tiny from the angle out of the way, or having to completely clip Ka out and it looking weird.
God I wish I had taken my dad's Nikon with me when I was here...
Took advantage of the pretty sky and vantage point to snap this awesome selfie!
...I thought it was spelled "kebab?" :?
We went back to that pretty Mexican area to finish out the night on Toro!
We grabbed a spin on the Larson Loop next for the lulz. I always knew I was going to hell.
Well the ride was actually mildly entertaining, even though there was nothing about it that felt even remotely like a coaster. But wait? It's called El Diablo: LOOPING COASTER. Well on the ride, I saw the ride op touching something in time with the ride's motions, and when I got back down, I noticed she was actually touching this! A joystick! It's called a coaster yet it's controlled with a joystick? Suspicious! But wait, it gets worse...
There are Six Flags. As in, 666 Flags. And the ride's theme is a clear reference to the devil worship done by a secret society somewhere. And these are taking over the industry, almost like a New World Order...
ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED BY LARSON LOOP. WAKE UP AMERICA.
After accepting that I was going to be beheaded in a FEMA camp and buried in one of those plastic coffins the government is buying, we decided to ride a coaster that actually coasted instead of being controlled by a joystick.
We got a ride in that rivaled Voyage in my count, making me consider bumping it back up.
Seriously, this thing at night is phenomenal! You can't quite tell where the hills begin and end and shooting up and over the park all lit up like that is incredible! Took Voyage right out after two more of these at night!
Going back for more, the ride went down! Can we fix it?
Looking cute with my honey waiting on it to reopen!
Maintenance came pretty quickly to transfer the offending train off and bring it down to one train, luckily the ride wasn't packed. We overheard maintenance talking, it was something with the anti-rollbacks that went wrong.
Chris left to drive back to Hershey so that left all of us for the last ride of the night!
Last ride of the night!
Afterwards we got a few souvenirs and left the park. We stopped at a Wawa for food and sat around talking about our feelings for a bit before Emily and I went back to the hotel to rest up for the nine-hour drive ahead of us the next day.
UP NEXT: Jarrett's new gooniform, the drive back, Crabby Joe's, and trip recap!