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Holiday Park | Unknown | Mack Xtreme Spinning Coaster | 2028

JoshC.

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Holiday Park are getting a Tomorrowland themed area in 2024:


It will replace the water ski show. The 15 million euro investment will "create an attraction and a top-class themed area".

Nice to see the Plopsa / Tomorrowland partnership expanding, and will be interesting to see what this new attraction could end up being!
 
Holiday Park are getting a Tomorrowland themed area in 2024:


It will replace the water ski show. The 15 million euro investment will "create an attraction and a top-class themed area".

Nice to see the Plopsa / Tomorrowland partnership expanding, and will be interesting to see what this new attraction could end up being!
Could this be an RTH clone? Or is it likely to be something different?
 
RTH cost €17.5 million, so unless a lot of that went towards development costs then €15 million for a clone is a bit iffy. Could be something in a similar vein, though.
Not just development costs... Bit of a difference shipping 100's of tonnes of steel up the road, than there is to another country...

That being said, I do agree, I doubt it's a clone...
 
Plopsa are investing 65 million euros in Holiday Park over the next 3 years.
This includes:
- a water play area to open next year
- the hotel (20 Million euros) and water park (22,5 Million Euros) which start construction soon
- the 2024 Tomorrowland themed area and coaster (17,5 Million Euro - interestingly a higher figure than the one originally quoted)

 
The water ski show is now officially being retired after shutting due to the pandemic. The stadium is already in the process of being dismantled.

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At a recent fan event the park have confirmed
- the Tomorrowland area and coaster are delayed to 2025
- they claim a few options still exist so no announcement can be made as to what exact coaster type/manufacturer will it be - other than it won't be a wooden coaster
- the new hotel is delayed from 2023 to 2024
- a retheme in the near future is planned for the dark ride Burg Falkenstein
 
A clone of RTH would be amazing for this park's lineup. With EGF and RTH (or even something similar) that the park would easily have one of the best 1-2 punches out there.
 
Will Mack be willing to build a coaster for Holiday Park that is much better than anything they have at their own park down the road? They will be competing with themselves.
 
Will Mack be willing to build a coaster for Holiday Park that is much better than anything they have at their own park down the road? They will be competing with themselves.
Fair point, but I think as long as they get payed enough they'll build anything the park wants. Matter of time before Europa Park gets a spinner anyways.
 
Will Mack be willing to build a coaster for Holiday Park that is much better than anything they have at their own park down the road? They will be competing with themselves.
Yes. Europa is on another level from Holiday Park and Europa/Mack know that. Building a major coaster for Holiday Park isn't going to put a dent in Europa's attendance.

Plus, Europa essentially serves as a testing/proving ground and functioning advertisement for Mack's products. Half of its purpose is to help sell rides. Obviously, they don't have an extreme spinner, but that's sort of irrelevant. The more extreme spinners they are able to get out into the world (and therefore prove it's a solid, quality product), the more likely they are to sell additional installations. Honestly, having a masterpiece that close is probably an asset because they can easily take clients up the road to see the product and they don't have to pay for the installation themselves.
 
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Also, I’d guess that the majority of Holiday Park and Europa Park visitors probably wouldn’t twig that Holiday Park’s new ride was built by the owners of Europa Park… I probably wouldn’t, if I wasn’t an enthusiast.

Manufacturers aren’t particularly common knowledge outside of enthusiast circles, from my experience, so I don’t think a Mack coaster at Holiday Park would be an issue for Europa Park.

They’re not even that close, are they? Correct me if I’m wrong, but when I looked, I seem to remember Holiday Park being a good 2 hour drive from EP…
 
From what I've heard Plopsa don't want to compete with themselves never mind Europa Park and Mack. In the same way GeForce is the unique flagship ride that attracts attention from across Europe, Ride to Happiness does the same for Plopsaland De Panne. They apparently don't want to undermine it. Have no official source for this though just hearsay from fan groups speaking off the record with park management recently.

Plus anyone hoping for a clone - RtH was very custom made to fit the limited space in Plopsaland. The site at HoPa is totally different. Doesn't mean it couldn't be an Xtreme Spinner if they really wanted another but it would be a different layout for sure.
However I get the feeling they will go a different direction with this to make something more unique for the park.
 
Plus, business is business. If Plopsa is willing to pay for a Mack Xtreme Spinner, they will get it. After all, as far as I know, Mack coasters aren't cheap and they don't sell in bulk.

Yes. Europa is on another level from Holiday Park and Europa/Mack know that. Building a major coaster for Holiday Park isn't going to put a dent in Europa's attendance.

Plus, Europa essentially serves as a testing/proving ground and functioning advertisement for Mack's products. Half of its purpose is to help sell rides. Obviously, they don't have an extreme spinner, but that's sort of irrelevant. The more extreme spinners they are able to get out into the world (and therefore prove it's a solid, quality product), the more likely they are to sell additional installations. Honestly, having a masterpiece that close is probably an asset because they can easily take clients up the road to see the product and they don't have to pay for the installation themselves.

Fair point. EP can still showcase a family-friendly version of their spinning model in Euromir (even more after the supposed overhaul to make it into Euromir 2.0), while still prompt prospective buyers to visit Holiday Park to try their Xtreme model.
 
Also, I’d guess that the majority of Holiday Park and Europa Park visitors probably wouldn’t twig that Holiday Park’s new ride was built by the owners of Europa Park… I probably wouldn’t, if I wasn’t an enthusiast.

Manufacturers aren’t particularly common knowledge outside of enthusiast circles, from my experience, so I don’t think a Mack coaster at Holiday Park would be an issue for Europa Park.

They’re not even that close, are they? Correct me if I’m wrong, but when I looked, I seem to remember Holiday Park being a good 2 hour drive from EP…

My point wasn't the visitors caring. Visitors simply don't care about ride manufacturers. It was that Mack Rides provide EPs closest competitor with a world class coaster, which EP themselves cant match. Essentially causing self harm. It's an about 150km drive between the two parks.

As @Indy said it might not be a bad deal for Mack Rides. If Mack don't build HP's next coaster, someone else will. If Mack do it, they at least have something to add to their showroom and make money while doing it.
 
Europa Park could match a flagship Mack coaster at Holiday Park, I’m sure; for starters, we don’t know just how good Voltron in 2024 might be!

It sounds absolutely nuts… but also absolutely brilliant!
 
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