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El Condor, Walibi Holland track refurbishment

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According to Themepark.nl El Condor at Walibi Holland is getting some of its track refurbished for a smoother ride.
This picture appeared on Walibi's facebook page.

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It's not the track that's a problem so much as the fact that the upstop wheels are about 12 inches from it.
 
Same thing is happening to Goudurix too, but like Gavin said, it's the train's that are the biggest issue!
 
And yet all 8 of the B&M Inverts built in 1994 or before still seem to run perfectly smooth: signs that you shouldn't have built an SLC.
 
Don't like jumping on a bandwagon, but until the trains are replaced I don't see this as being much help.
 
ECG said:
Don't like jumping on a bandwagon, but until the trains are replaced I don't see this as being much help.

And even if the trains are replaced, it won't make that much of a difference. I rode El Jaguar with new generation trains and the experience was still bad.
 
oriolat2 said:
ECG said:
Don't like jumping on a bandwagon, but until the trains are replaced I don't see this as being much help.

And even if the trains are replaced, it won't make that much of a difference. I rode El Jaguar with new generation trains and the experience was still bad.
Did El Jaguar also have the track refurbished? If so, then it sounds like the park wasted a lot of money for no reward.
 
Of course the counter argument is Manhattan Express: New York New York hotel went with new trains over track refurbishment/reprofile. The best way to guarantee a smooth ride is in the initial design phase. Track refurbishment and train replacements can work, but ultimately try to make up for a critical initial flaw.

... critical flaws like TOGO existing as a roller coaster manufacturer. :razz:
 
Hyde244 said:
... critical flaws like TOGO existing as a roller coaster manufacturer. :razz:
Waiting for the backlash for making such a blasphemous statement... :wink:
 
Maybe they're giving the tracks rails an extra 12" of girth ;)

It's disappointing they're spending money on refurbishing an old SLC if I'm being honest. No major investment from the park since Six Flags sold it and doesn't look like there will be any time soon.
 
The upstops get brought up a lot, but do they actually do anything on an SLC? As far as I know, the trains would be only riding the road wheels right?
 
Gazza said:
The upstops get brought up a lot, but do they actually do anything on an SLC? As far as I know, the trains would be only riding the road wheels right?
^ Upstops still come in handy during moments of negative g-force.
 
Hyde244 said:
Gazza said:
The upstops get brought up a lot, but do they actually do anything on an SLC? As far as I know, the trains would be only riding the road wheels right?
^ Upstops still come in handy during moments of negative g-force.
Or when the train doesn't have enough speed to stay pushed to the outside of the track. I think it's relatively common to feel yourself 'falling' out of the seat on the SLCs, in which case some of (not all necessarily) of the weight of the train is being taken by the up-stops.
 
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