This topic spawns off of Mako, where a back-and-forth has begun on if B&M Hypers are the best airtime machine. That is, compared to Intamin, Arrow, Morgan, etc., B&M Hypers are the better of the breed.
So what say you?
So what say you?
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Are B&M Hypers the Best Airtime Machine?
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Snoo
The Legend
Well.. this question is hard to come at with just "Is B&M the best for airtime" as my Top 10 begs to differ. If you want to look at a specific type of coaster that has developed over time from one manufacter that delivers good, consistant airtime, then by miles the B&M Airtime Machines win as other designers can be hit or miss (Intamin) or just do not build machines a lot to judge (Arrow.. kinda).
At the end of the day, as the other thread mentioned, preferences always dictate. I prefer ejector over floater, hence why rides that give more sustained ejector over and over get the nod in comparison to just repetitive floater.
At the end of the day, as the other thread mentioned, preferences always dictate. I prefer ejector over floater, hence why rides that give more sustained ejector over and over get the nod in comparison to just repetitive floater.
owentaylor121
Giga Poster
Yes by far, even if you are not a fan of floater airtime, B&M hypers still have the most airtime of almost any coaster. Every hill at leadt has some floater.
GuyWithAStick
Captain Basic
Re: Are B&M Hypers the Best Airtime Machine?
Yep, B&M is the best. Open trains, amazing restraints, sustainable floater, and just all around fun ride's.
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Yep, B&M is the best. Open trains, amazing restraints, sustainable floater, and just all around fun ride's.
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Mysterious Sue
Strata Poster
Re: Are B&M Hypers the Best Airtime Machine?
Yes. B&M hypers have the largest sustained amount of airtime that I can think of (with Intamin Megalites coming in second). Intamin hypers may have moments of larger ejector but less overall. There is still a large amount of ejector to be found on B&M hypers in the front row and to this day the most amount I've ever experienced is on Nitro (with the exemption of woodies).
But it is the mixture of strong ejector and gentle floater that makes B&M the better rides IMO. They give the whole package - a complete ride experience. Throw in the uncomfortable restraints on many Intamins and the brilliant new open design B&M hyper seats and for me, there's just no comparison.
Yes. B&M hypers have the largest sustained amount of airtime that I can think of (with Intamin Megalites coming in second). Intamin hypers may have moments of larger ejector but less overall. There is still a large amount of ejector to be found on B&M hypers in the front row and to this day the most amount I've ever experienced is on Nitro (with the exemption of woodies).
But it is the mixture of strong ejector and gentle floater that makes B&M the better rides IMO. They give the whole package - a complete ride experience. Throw in the uncomfortable restraints on many Intamins and the brilliant new open design B&M hyper seats and for me, there's just no comparison.
CookieCoasters
Giga Poster
I would have to say no, when I consider the four B&M Hypers I have ridden. I personally find the floater airtime, which is a significant feature of these rides, often a little too 'mellow' for me to find them very exciting. They are certainly not bad and I place all but one of them in my Top 50, but when compared to ejector airtime machines such as those made by Intamin, they don't have that intensity that makes me crave to re-ride again and again.
However, these criticisms only fully apply to three of the four I have ridden. Shambhala is an exception. This is because the floater airtime is considerably stronger than on others I have ridden, but also there is some moments of ejector thrown in throughout the ride. These factors, as well as the fact I find the layout more enticing, means Shambhala only just falls behind the likes of EGF, El Toro and Goliath for me. I believe there is also arguments to say it is better than those. The airtime on Shambhala is more consistent throughout the ride, it causes no discomfort and more freedom due to an excellent restraint and train design. But for me, the lack of very aggressive/intense ejector airtime, still puts it behind certain Intamin airtime machines, despite having an arguably superior layout, trains etc.
If the question was "Are B&M Hypers the Best Floater Airtime Machines?", then the answer would be yes because they execute this feature extremely well. Otherwise, it really boils don't to whether you prefer floater or ejector.
However, these criticisms only fully apply to three of the four I have ridden. Shambhala is an exception. This is because the floater airtime is considerably stronger than on others I have ridden, but also there is some moments of ejector thrown in throughout the ride. These factors, as well as the fact I find the layout more enticing, means Shambhala only just falls behind the likes of EGF, El Toro and Goliath for me. I believe there is also arguments to say it is better than those. The airtime on Shambhala is more consistent throughout the ride, it causes no discomfort and more freedom due to an excellent restraint and train design. But for me, the lack of very aggressive/intense ejector airtime, still puts it behind certain Intamin airtime machines, despite having an arguably superior layout, trains etc.
If the question was "Are B&M Hypers the Best Floater Airtime Machines?", then the answer would be yes because they execute this feature extremely well. Otherwise, it really boils don't to whether you prefer floater or ejector.
Yes. You know what you're getting with B&M, which is sustained airtime on every hill. People talk about Intamin "airtime machines" but what are they? Bizarro, EGF, Skyrush (from what I've heard) and the mega lites. That's it. Arrow? Magnum and that's it. The whole "floater isn't airtime" argument is more tired than a $5 daytime hooker's pussy.
MouseAT
Hyper Poster
I've voted no, but the answer requires a little explanation.
B&M hyper coasters are probably the most consistently good airtime machines. I've had some fantastic rides on Silver Star, and from what I hear the newer hyper coasters such are even better. If a UK park announced they were installing a B&M hyper, I'd be over the moon at the news.
Personally, I enjoy the best Intamin hyper coasters to the B&Ms I've experienced. Expedition Geforce is a fantastic coaster, as are El Toro and Colossos. Given the choice between Silver Star and EGF/Colossos/El Toro, I'd come down firmly in favour of the Intamins. However, the Intamin installations are definitely inconsistent. If a park announced an Intamin hyper, I'd always be concerned that it could end up being something of a dud. I'd take a decent B&M hyper over the likes of the SFA Superman Ride of Steel or Balder any day.
When Intamin bring their A game, they're the best in the world at this. When they don't the results are mixed, and the B&Ms win out.
B&M hyper coasters are probably the most consistently good airtime machines. I've had some fantastic rides on Silver Star, and from what I hear the newer hyper coasters such are even better. If a UK park announced they were installing a B&M hyper, I'd be over the moon at the news.
Personally, I enjoy the best Intamin hyper coasters to the B&Ms I've experienced. Expedition Geforce is a fantastic coaster, as are El Toro and Colossos. Given the choice between Silver Star and EGF/Colossos/El Toro, I'd come down firmly in favour of the Intamins. However, the Intamin installations are definitely inconsistent. If a park announced an Intamin hyper, I'd always be concerned that it could end up being something of a dud. I'd take a decent B&M hyper over the likes of the SFA Superman Ride of Steel or Balder any day.
When Intamin bring their A game, they're the best in the world at this. When they don't the results are mixed, and the B&Ms win out.
robbeal
Hyper Poster
Are they the best for airtime? In my opinion, no. But, that's not to say that they're bad rides. Quite the opposite to be honest. They're less intense (certainly the ones i've ridden anyway) than similar Intamin varieties, but they're just as fun, in their own way.
When I look at the rides I consider my favourites, its clear that I prefer the Intamin-type airtime, but there's B&M hypers right up there too. I'd easily choose a hyper coaster over a looping any day.
When I look at the rides I consider my favourites, its clear that I prefer the Intamin-type airtime, but there's B&M hypers right up there too. I'd easily choose a hyper coaster over a looping any day.
Howie
Donkey in a hat
I voted yes.
I'm not massively into airtime, not as much as some people on here anyway, but when I get it I like it to be loooooong and floaty, rather than sudden and bouncy. Plunging down humungous drops with your arse hovering an inch or two above the seat all the way down. Yeah man, can't beat that!
And B&M hypers do it best.
I'm not massively into airtime, not as much as some people on here anyway, but when I get it I like it to be loooooong and floaty, rather than sudden and bouncy. Plunging down humungous drops with your arse hovering an inch or two above the seat all the way down. Yeah man, can't beat that!
And B&M hypers do it best.
owentaylor121
Giga Poster
^Taron? Valraven?
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cjbrandy
Hyper Poster
Ayy Lmao said:
I'd rather ride Mako over Valravn too, its not going to be the longest hyper but whats there is quality. However I would pick Valravn over Mako if it had the classic B&M restraints, I don't have a problem with the next gen restraints on wing coasters like The Swarm but I reckon it will tame the experience a bit in this case.
TMCoasters
Mega Poster
I vote either Intamin or RMC. Judging based on what I've ridden Intamin has insane airtime, including El Toro and Bizarro. I've only been on one RMC, WC, but it delivered by far the most airtime I've experienced. I've only ridden one B&M airtime based coaster, Nitro, which had decent floater but it really wasn't that special.