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I've always wondered if these provide any sort of airtime? Judging from t he POVs (yes, I know) They don't seem to have very much. Also, does Wild Thing's @ Valleyfair "worlds longest low gravity" section all that spectacular?

Xcelerator was down, again, this weekend.

Well, for what it's worth(nothing more than internet rumors from around 2000). Cedar Point approached Intamin, Morgan and B&M for Millennium Force. Morgan's was pricey, and B&M pretty much said "no". And in the end Intamin was chosen. Also, Leviathan really goes above what B&M has already done...

Well, the speed on an object falling from that height (est. 145') should be 65.6 mph. Of course that's without any friction or air-resistance. So the real number should be about 3-4mph less, many B&M coasters fall 3-4mph under what can be achieved. (164' can actually achieve 70mph, however...

The train should be going approximately 60mph after the immelmann, take that for what it's worth. Seeing as how all of the following elements are about the same height, this will probably take the cake for the most intense of the the 3. Even though we wont know until we see some test footage...

just look how sharp the tip of the hill is... http://pointbuzz.com/Photos/Photo.aspx?id=8593 "Airtime"

Falling from 150+/- feet and then going through that sharp hill (only 105'), judging by the length of the train. Airtime will be there.

I can already sense the hairtime :D

I love the 90° banked cambelbacks! :angel:

105 foot Camelback is going up. You can also see some more ground-work going on towards the main gate.

Visual Explanation (easiest way to understand) As you can see, A Dive loop is where the train literally "dives" down. An Immelmann is the same, just turn the train around and send it going in the opposite direction. They are both the same, its just the direction traveled that differs. Both...

Any word on how high that immelmann is? Could be a top 10 contender for tallest inversion....

This thing is enormous.

That pretty much answers the OP. Also, making it 90* would make it more difficult to support. Although Intamin shouldn't have a problem with that(Skyrush/I305).

Tomato Tamata..... http://www.intaminworldwide.com/amusement/RollerCoasters/Wing+Coaster/tabid/138/ProductNumber/Wing+Coaster/language/de-DE/Default.aspx Intamin Wing Coaster http://www.bolliger-mabillard.com/products/wing_en.aspx B&M Wing Coaster

Let me rephrase So-far the most visually appealing winged coaster, next to Skyrush. Wild Eagle & X-flight are nice,however, Swarm & Raptor aren't the prettiest. The coasters themselves are fugly, not the scenery involved. Black is just "blah".

Already giving the other winged coasters a run for their money.... she's a beauty!

^I'd say this looks beyond safe. Probably the only reason there is so much supports is because of the sheer height.

^What people don't understand is: They would never of built the coaster if it wasn't up to standards/safe. It seems that people have very little knowledge of how things get built. Why would a park build something that is unsafe and face lawsuits and bad criticism? Come on GP, your smarter than...

Give the UK an El Toro....Minds=Blown