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Your Least Common Opinion?
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Update: Galactica is still my favourite Flyer. Even after riding Flying Dinosaur.
Now another (I think) uncommon opinion from my Japan trip:
Steel Dragon 2000 is better than Hakugei.
NemesisRider
Roller Poster
^ I vehemently disagree, but I think that is the point of this thread...
I can get why someone might prefer Galactica over Flynosaur, as Flynosaur is exceptionally intense and maybe slightly nauseating. But why Steel Dragon over Hakugei? I was not immensely impressed by the former.
I can get why someone might prefer Galactica over Flynosaur, as Flynosaur is exceptionally intense and maybe slightly nauseating. But why Steel Dragon over Hakugei? I was not immensely impressed by the former.
TheAverageJuel
Roller Poster
Full Throttle is better than Steel Vengeance.
and no-one shall tell me otherwise
and no-one shall tell me otherwise
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Hakugei was brilliant, but I've done 4 RMCs now, and I just found it a bit same-y. It didn't offer anything other RMCs didn't. My favourite RMC remains Untamed.
Steel Dragon was right up my street. Height, speed, big swooping drops with floater airtime, a fantastic run of bunny hops on the return leg – loved it. The back row especially was brilliant.
MackMan
Mega Poster
My biggest two from last year might turn heads
Europa Park is only good when things go right, when things go wrong the park is awful:
Okay this is hot off a trip last year in November where it went from my favourite park to a Merlin Park in my opinion. Paid like £50 for their half baked Hallowinter event where all of their marquee rides were closed, basically all shows bar one were not performing, and the backside of the park was covered in scaffolding. Nevermind half the food places being closed..
B&M is going to crash eventually
It seems B&M is losing its main selling point, smoothness. Sure it is selling great at the moment, but their family coasters laden with rattles showcase the downfall of their quality. With Mack and Vekoma being around, I wonder if B&M will see a struggle in sales in the future. Their additions this year seem highly inferior to what Vekoma could or would do.
Europa Park is only good when things go right, when things go wrong the park is awful:
Okay this is hot off a trip last year in November where it went from my favourite park to a Merlin Park in my opinion. Paid like £50 for their half baked Hallowinter event where all of their marquee rides were closed, basically all shows bar one were not performing, and the backside of the park was covered in scaffolding. Nevermind half the food places being closed..
B&M is going to crash eventually
It seems B&M is losing its main selling point, smoothness. Sure it is selling great at the moment, but their family coasters laden with rattles showcase the downfall of their quality. With Mack and Vekoma being around, I wonder if B&M will see a struggle in sales in the future. Their additions this year seem highly inferior to what Vekoma could or would do.
HighPeaksConstruction
Roller Poster
The Hollywood Dream Backdrop is better than the Flying Dinosaur early in the morning.
GhostRider’s drop isn’t as bad as y’all criticize it.
The Xcelerator is underrated.
Floater is better than ejector
GhostRider’s drop isn’t as bad as y’all criticize it.
The Xcelerator is underrated.
Floater is better than ejector
Floater is sometimes better than ejector. With some "space" in the restraint, it will give more magic than ejector. My favorite drop is Valkyria. That is "only" floater. But it gives the most butterflies of all drops I have experienced. So yes, I agree, floater is better than ejector.
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RMC has the worst restraints or maybe even trains out there. Yes, even worse than the Volare cages.
Why?
Firstly, the shin guards. If you are tall, those will constantly push into your shins, even with some wiggle room on your thighs. Every single airtime pop will then result in in full impact on your shins. I usually have bruises on my shins from RMCs, which should be a no go.
But wait, there is more: The restraints are so incredibly hard to move, I often see people, especially kids struggle to even open or close them.
But that is still not enough: With the seatbelt setup, you can’t really check them when the restraint is down, so the belts have to be checked first which slows down operations a lot. Intmain had this sorted out in 2000, RMC still can’t get it done in 2025.
And one bonus issue: The buckle might destroy your shirts when it’s constantly rubbing against it. It can also be right under your restraint, so you have a metal piece pushing into your thigh. Not fun.
They are also on the tighter side, but given the other issues they have, this is a rather minor one.
The trains not only slow down operations due to their quirks, they also physically hurt the riders and might even damage their property.
With them reworking them a few years ago, I still can’t believe that they didn’t tackle a single one of those issues. Quite contrary, I feel like the older restraints give me a tiny bit more space to protect my shins than the newer ones.
If those trains were a school project, they’d be an easy F for me.
Why?
Firstly, the shin guards. If you are tall, those will constantly push into your shins, even with some wiggle room on your thighs. Every single airtime pop will then result in in full impact on your shins. I usually have bruises on my shins from RMCs, which should be a no go.
But wait, there is more: The restraints are so incredibly hard to move, I often see people, especially kids struggle to even open or close them.
But that is still not enough: With the seatbelt setup, you can’t really check them when the restraint is down, so the belts have to be checked first which slows down operations a lot. Intmain had this sorted out in 2000, RMC still can’t get it done in 2025.
And one bonus issue: The buckle might destroy your shirts when it’s constantly rubbing against it. It can also be right under your restraint, so you have a metal piece pushing into your thigh. Not fun.
They are also on the tighter side, but given the other issues they have, this is a rather minor one.
The trains not only slow down operations due to their quirks, they also physically hurt the riders and might even damage their property.
With them reworking them a few years ago, I still can’t believe that they didn’t tackle a single one of those issues. Quite contrary, I feel like the older restraints give me a tiny bit more space to protect my shins than the newer ones.
If those trains were a school project, they’d be an easy F for me.
TheAverageJuel
Roller Poster
Ok, new rare opinion:
The old Intamin OTSRs are not bad with soft straps.
These get a lot of hate for obvious reasons, but with soft straps, I actually find them comfortable! Weird, I know. I'm smaller in stature, so I think it makes a little sense (I'm 5'7" for reference). I've had 3 experiences with these restraints: Maverick, Fahrenheit, and Storm Runner. I actually enjoy them, they make me feel secure (duh, they're supposed to be and feel secure). Anyway, they're not as bad as people make them out to be. The hard ones, I can see, but the soft straps not so much. Honestly, not a bad restraint system, even if I prefer the new-age restraints anyway.
The old Intamin OTSRs are not bad with soft straps.
These get a lot of hate for obvious reasons, but with soft straps, I actually find them comfortable! Weird, I know. I'm smaller in stature, so I think it makes a little sense (I'm 5'7" for reference). I've had 3 experiences with these restraints: Maverick, Fahrenheit, and Storm Runner. I actually enjoy them, they make me feel secure (duh, they're supposed to be and feel secure). Anyway, they're not as bad as people make them out to be. The hard ones, I can see, but the soft straps not so much. Honestly, not a bad restraint system, even if I prefer the new-age restraints anyway.
Matt N
CF Legend
I think I’d actually go a tad further @TheAverageJuel… I’d say that the old Intamin OTSRs with the hard plastic are not even that bad either.
If you’re talking about the ones like on Rita and Stealth, they honestly don’t bother me that much. They’re not my favourite restraints, and I’d obviously take a lap bar or B&M OTSR, but I find them mostly quite inoffensive. I don’t know if I’m at the perfect height to not really be bothered by them in either the shoulder room sense or the head banging sense (I’m a fairly average 5’10”), but I find them fine, if not outstanding.
The ones on Colossus aren’t great, but that’s more to do with lack of legroom than the actual restraint…
If you’re talking about the ones like on Rita and Stealth, they honestly don’t bother me that much. They’re not my favourite restraints, and I’d obviously take a lap bar or B&M OTSR, but I find them mostly quite inoffensive. I don’t know if I’m at the perfect height to not really be bothered by them in either the shoulder room sense or the head banging sense (I’m a fairly average 5’10”), but I find them fine, if not outstanding.
The ones on Colossus aren’t great, but that’s more to do with lack of legroom than the actual restraint…
Oof, that is a hot take. I was violently reminded riding Cheetah Hunt last November why we're grateful for the soft strap.
TheAverageJuel
Roller Poster
Well dang. I'm speechless
Impressive to find someone who's not bothered with the hard plastic ones!
Let’s the how this ages over the next couple of days.
Just had my first ride on Fury 325 (front row) and I got to say: It is boring and the online highlight are the 2 small airtime hills towards the end. The first 2/3 of the ride is just full of it doing nothing at all.
Just had my first ride on Fury 325 (front row) and I got to say: It is boring and the online highlight are the 2 small airtime hills towards the end. The first 2/3 of the ride is just full of it doing nothing at all.
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Let's hope that changes - otherwise there's a ban coming your way.
So, the drop was good, especially in the back row. Not amazing, but really good. For some reason it felt “short”, but that is 100% me because there is no drop longer than this one.
The high speed part grew a bit on me, but it still lacks the insanity of Formula Rossa. I am still quite unsure how to rank this one. It isn’t a top 10 ride for me, but it is without doubt a good coaster, just not a Top 5 worldwide in my opinion.
Was that enough to avoid the ban hammer? I still have half a day at the park
Nevermind, the just decided not to open today. Have a Six Flags Day!
The high speed part grew a bit on me, but it still lacks the insanity of Formula Rossa. I am still quite unsure how to rank this one. It isn’t a top 10 ride for me, but it is without doubt a good coaster, just not a Top 5 worldwide in my opinion.
Was that enough to avoid the ban hammer? I still have half a day at the park
Nevermind, the just decided not to open today. Have a Six Flags Day!
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Just.Was that enough to avoid the ban hammer? I still have half a day at the park
Hutch
Strata Poster
I get the Fury take. It took me multiple visits to Carowinds across a few years to really "get" Fury. It's obviously remarkable the first time you ride it, but the focus on speed over airtime kept it out of "world-beater" territory for me. I bumped it up when it finally clicked with me, realizing how fun the speed and transitions were, and the airtime was even better than I remembered.
It's an elite ride and can understand why it'd be among the favorites for many, but even then, it's been dropping for me since I rerode it a few years ago, because I just prefer other types of coasters. I had it peak #7, and three years later it's back to #15. Pretty much everything that has climbed above it (be it new-to-me coasters or rerides on old favorites) have one thing in common: wildly intense ejector airtime, many of which mix in surprise lateral forces. Fury doesn't really do that.
It's an elite ride and can understand why it'd be among the favorites for many, but even then, it's been dropping for me since I rerode it a few years ago, because I just prefer other types of coasters. I had it peak #7, and three years later it's back to #15. Pretty much everything that has climbed above it (be it new-to-me coasters or rerides on old favorites) have one thing in common: wildly intense ejector airtime, many of which mix in surprise lateral forces. Fury doesn't really do that.