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Universal Studios Beijing | 2020

Matt N

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Wow, that launch tunnel looks fantastic! I think Universal looks to have really perfected the Hulk-style coaster here; the theming and layout profiling all look on point here compared to the original!

On a different thought, I wonder whether this will have the older OTSRs or vests? They kept the OTSRs when they refurbished the Orlando Hulk in 2016, but they seem to have changed a number of things here, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they did add vests. Frankly, I’m quite surprised they didn’t change the launch to B&M’s own LSM system with the amount of modernisation they did in terms of track profiling.
 
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VonRolland

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Wow, that launch tunnel looks fantastic! I think Universal looks to have really perfected the Hulk-style coaster here; the theming and layout profiling all look on point here compared to the original!

On a different thought, I wonder whether this will have the older OTSRs or vests? They kept the OTSRs when they refurbished the Orlando Hulk in 2016, but they seem to have changed a number of things here, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they did add vests. Frankly, I’m quite surprised they didn’t change the launch to B&M’s own LSM system with the amount of modernisation they did in terms of track profiling.
Pretty sure B&M don't make there own LSM's though?
 

Matt N

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Pretty sure B&M don't make there own LSM's though?
I know that they probably don’t make their own LSMs, but I’m sure I remember being told that B&M at least had involvement and cooperation with Thunderbird’s launch, whereas they allegedly refused to have anything to do with the original Hulk’s launch when that was built.
 

Antinos

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I'm not surprised that they stuck with the tire launch for a bunch of engineering related reasons. The first being that they had already done this before and by reusing an already existing method on a nearly identical ride means that 95% of the work is already complete. The more complicated reason is that launching on a steep incline requires significantly more energy since the launch has to overcome gravity in addition to the train's inertia. Surely their LSM design would have worked, but it would have been way more power hungry over a tire drive, where they could specifically size each motor and gear reduction such that each tire drive is optimized for power efficiency.
 

VonRolland

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I know that they probably don’t make their own LSMs, but I’m sure I remember being told that B&M at least had involvement and cooperation with Thunderbird’s launch, whereas they allegedly refused to have anything to do with the original Hulk’s launch when that was built.
I Believe B&M, Mack ,Vekoma, Gerst & Maybe Maurer all use the same launch system
 

CrashCoaster

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Ah right; thanks for the clarification @VonRolland!
You know you don't have to quote a member's name if you quote their post. And vice versa.

But yes I believe he is right, the launches are all made by InTraSys from what I am aware of. Strange though because some (Gerstlauer) are a lot more forceful than others (Mack).
 
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But yes I believe he is ride, the launches are all made by InTraSys from what I am aware of. Strange though because some (Gerstlauer) are a lot more forceful than others (Mack).
I think the analogy would be something like Bridgestone Tyres. They'll make tires for your family Fiat, as well as your prototype Ferrari. The product is tailored for the use it's meant for.

If Mack aren't specifying intense launches, InTraSys (or any launch hardware manufacturer for that matter) won't provide them with one. They could, but they won't. That's Mack's problem, not theirs.
 

Matt N

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So would that mean that IntraSys make most LSM launches apart from those on Intamin coasters, as I believe they use a different supplier (I could have sworn they were called something like Indrivetec?)?
 

Antinos

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I think the analogy would be something like Bridgestone Tyres. They'll make tires for your family Fiat, as well as your prototype Ferrari. The product is tailored for the use it's meant for.

If Mack aren't specifying intense launches, InTraSys (or any launch hardware manufacturer for that matter) won't provide them with one. They could, but they won't. That's Mack's problem, not theirs.
This little guy. They likely have a product lineup (as opposed to just one single LSM product) that differs by power consumption and the electromagnetic field it creates. The launches also surely differ due to a different controls strategy, which would make sense if completely different people are developing the rides.
 

VonRolland

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You know you don't have to quote a member's name if you quote their post. And vice versa.

But yes I believe he is right, the launches are all made by InTraSys from what I am aware of. Strange though because some (Gerstlauer) are a lot more forceful than others (Mack).
From the quick reading i did it seems they can launch up to 10g, Seems Helix & ICON had deliberately soft launches in comparison with B Fire's more punchy launch but either way compared to Fluch Von Novgorod that's nothing...
 
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