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kimahri

kimahri

CF Legend
So, as you've seen around the internet there's been a lot of talk and rebellion about the two American legislations 'Stop Online Piracy Act' (SOPA) and 'Protect IP Act' (PIPA). I've not actually read either of the actual thing but I've gone around and saw some youtube videos, read a couple of run downs and witnessed some of the websites I frequent and they're blackouts and protests.

Here is a video that helped my understand it and could probably word it better than me.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8fJM[/youtube]

I want to create a discussion on how much this would affect out website we got here and other member's stance on this.

I'm against both of them so Imma go usual me and spam you with stuff to push you over to the agaisnt side.

http://americancensorship.org/

So yeah, go do all that stuff. It's not just for american users as well.
 
furie

furie

SBOPD
Staff member
Administrator
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If the bills passed (which is now very very unlikely) then CF could be banned from being viewed by the Americans, yes. Pretty much every site on the internet could fall foul of the bills.

We've used images from park websites (official logos and the like) which could be "claimed" to be piracy and we could be removed from the US DNS without any chance to explain or defend ourselves.

Ridiculous and over-reaching are just two words that accurately describe the bills. While it affects everyone if people in America get banned from viewing anything on the internet, it's kind of their own fault if they let this through. If you live in the greatest democracy in the world, then take an interest in it and fight the bloody thing. It shouldn't have to take a Wikipedia blackout to raise awareness, people should be aware of these things anyway surely*?

Anyway, the chances of it going through are exceptionally slim now due to overwhelming opposition. It'll upset the major corporations who paid a lot of people a lot of money to try and get this through (why make money by selling things and being the best business when you can legislate your way into profit?), but good sense seems to be winning out. It had better be denied because all the other major governments of the world have something similar waiting in the aisles to see how it goes down in the US.



*to be fair, similar things pass through the UK government and nobody bats an eyelid.
 
Gazza

Gazza

Giga Poster
Indeed, say no to SOPA:
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http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/ph ... 2_700b.jpg
 
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TP Rich

Hyper Poster
If SOPA and PIPA go ahead, the USA might just as well throw their computers away, there'll be so little left on the internet. It's a ridiculous law with no common sense involved.
 
Xpress

Xpress

Strata Poster
About the only thing the bills are worth is to be used as toilet paper and flushed away.
 
Ploddish

Ploddish

Hyper Poster
Some genuinely fascinating discourse on the topic:

Firstly, if you still need convincing that the bill isn't entirely bad, or has any good intentions behind it whatsoever, let me direct your attention to Clay Shirky (an absolute spitting image of a bald Tom Hanks) on TED. A superb video, and I recommend everyone watch (14 mins)

Secondly, a further discussion of Shirky's last point - the upcoming problems we're going to be facing. This is a 30 minute talk (but an hour long video) by Cory Doctorow, which I think really puts SOPA/PIPA in context:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYO8qHubGAU[/youtube]

The debate itself is on the 24th, I believe, so that'll be worth tuning in to.
 
Venom2053

Venom2053

Hyper Poster
I dont understand people :/ This bill was introduced months ago and people are only caring now because of the wikipedia blackout. If anyone paid attention to american news this would have been a much bigger deal when it mattered. Its still a big deal now but the discussion by congress over this bill won't take place until late February, we are just really lucky that it congress pushed back the bill during November last year.

In the bill's defence it does give a lot of control to the entertainment industry, mainly the music sector as they have been losing sales because of downloading for years. But the wording on the bill is also very vague..

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDX8Lyl16Qs&feature=BFa&list=PL3B0BF0172B7D9BD2&lf=plpp_play_all[/youtube]
 
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Ben

CF Legend
^Uh, people cared back then it's just back in the news now?

You're not special in knowing it's been around for a while, sorry to break it to you.

The acts make me sad <//3
 
Ollie

Ollie

CF Legend
Looks like the internet has won for now.
Not to be outdone by PIPA's postponement, SOPA has also decided to pull some moves of its own. Rep. Lamar Smith announced today that he has decided to once again shelve the Stop Online Piracy Act, saying the legislation needs a new approach.
"I have heard from the critics and I take seriously their concerns regarding proposed legislation to address the problem of online piracy," Smith said in an online statement. "It is clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products."

While this is certainly good news, it is in no way a permanent move. The same bill was originally shelved just four days ago, before being pulled back out for consideration. And while this time around seems to have more staying power, the fight is far from over.
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http://www.screwattack.com/news/sopa-shelved-again
 
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Ben

CF Legend
The worst part of that article said:
This includes knockoff Louis Vuitton purses and cheap counterfeit medicine in developing nations
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No more Louise <//3

It'd almost worry me if I thought China would listen for a SECOND haha <//3
 
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