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Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 4, Liseberg

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A while back, the live dates for Sweden were announced and now that I have the resources to do so, I started looking around for things to build onto the live. Most of the Kolmården group decided to do Liseberg and Gröna Lund, but I started noticing other places I could get to easily. "And I can get to there by train, and there, and there." Eventually I was talking myself out of bankruptcy, but managed to get a week long break starting in Hamburg and going up to Sweden via Copenhagen:

Sunday - Fly in, Hamburg Sommardom
Monday - Heide Park
Tuesday - Hansa-Park
Wednesday - Tivoli/Bakken
Thursday - Doing tourism in Copenhagen
Friday - Liseberg
Saturday - Kolmården/Gröna Lund
Sunday/Monday - Doing tourism in Stockholm, fly out

Sunday - Arrival/Hamburg Sommardom

After managing to pack ten day's worth of clothing into hand-luggage (I didn't realise how generous it was) I boarded an Easyjet flight to Hamburg (which of course was delayed) and dumped my bags at the hostel.

About a week before the trip, I found out Hamburg Sommardom was in town. This means...

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Surprise Teststrecke :D

Teststrecke is the typical Schwarzkopf - smooth and forceful. There's something exhilirating to diving through the support structure at night. And at €4 a ride, it's easily the best value ride at the fair.

Also at the fair was the surprisingly pleasant Wilde Maus and a vile Pinfari whose wheels sounded like they were threatening to explode at any moment (both €5).

There's something really vibrant about German fairs. You've still got the obnoxious shouting everywhere and a level of seediness, but there's a sense of ambition and scale that I've not seen in the UK. It's an endless bombardment of colour and sound.

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But enough of that fair crap. Onto the good stuff.


Monday - Heide park

The first of many early starts to come (such is the life of the enthusiast) - up Monday morning to get a train from Hamburg Hauptbahnhof, conveniently located a couple of minutes walk from the hostel.

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So majestic

The two main Hamburg parks are really easy to do by train. Heide is a short hop to Buchholz, then a change onto a train to Wolterdingen, which takes a lovely scenic route through some forests...

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Pictured: said forests (Wolterdingen)

...followed by a walk through more forests to the park.

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This sign says "Creds ahead!"

I arrived early to the park, waiting with the hordes behind the Heide Park gate, so took the opportunity to take some pictures of the forecourt, which, like most German parks, is very traditionally German.

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Rather lovely

Come ten o'clock, a big booming countdown started counting down to the park opening, smoke filling the forecourt. "Vier, drei, zwei, eins," the gate opens and the hordes pour in. I follow towards cred #1.

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Krake

I've had my negative remarks about Shiekra, the only extended Dive Machine I'd done, but this packed a punch. The solid drop, snappy dive loop and forceful airtime hill go over well. Very short, but at least it doesn't outstay its welcome. Flug was a trek up a large hill, so I moved swiftly next door to cred #2 (Vekoma of blah), and cred #3 (Vekoma of Death)

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Big Loop is photogenic

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So photogenic

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Also photogenic but unfortunately an SLC

Big Loop is surprisingly buttery smooth until it hits the MCBR, at which point it remembers that it's a Vekoma. Limit doesn't mess around, preferring to just get on with the pain. Onwards up the hill. I love the little corners of the park like this dead end loop under Bobbahn. Nothing here, just a good photo opportunity for Bobbahn

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Gorgeous

The ride itself is a bit rattly but long and forceful, with lots of tunnels and scenery interaction. Just the way I like it. The whole setting on the hill with Flug flying around below the castle makes for a great backdrop to the park. The whole place is naturally picturesque, with lakesides, lots of green and some glorious architecture.

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Sexy

Onto Flug, which had a 45 minute wait by this point. This ride sells wingriders as a concept far more than Swarm. I love the little turnaround up by the castle and the airtime hill followed by a dive under the bridge. It peters out a bit towards the end, but is still a solid ride.

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Hey look, Merlin does know how to theme a ride without shipping containers

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Lunch crept up, so I headed to the sit down restaurant near the entrance, where I bought Schnitzel (because Germany) and a rather tasty rhubarb soda. Heide wins park food highlight of the trip.

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The chips were cooked with bacon bits - I approve

Three more available creds after lunch, but plenty of time remaining, so I had a quick look at the How to Train Your Dragon area and the boat ride. Quite disappointing considering the effort that went into the area in general. You go into the cave which, of course is forbidden, and come out again.

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Dragon Grotto: Journey to the Forbidden Cave

Next up Coloso... wait closed WHAT?

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SPITE

Sad face. Let's move onto Desert Race. I love Rita, so I was expecting good things from her German sister. Not disappointed, it is almost exactly like Rita. Hurrah!

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The mine train was next door. It's a decent one, and well themed to boot. Finally, I stumped up the courage to queue for the kiddie cred. That was a mistake. I looked out for some spin 'n' spews while making my way back to Krake and Flug for rerides.

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Mmm, sickly

The circus tent had a show on in ten minutes, so I took a break while a man with a ponytail drew some things in sand. Not quite what I was expecting

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The ponytail lets you know he is an artiste

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"The adventure is in you": pseudo-inspirational bollocks transcends all languages

There was enough time to nab rerides on Krake (front row!) and Flug on the way out.

There's an air of Merlin commercialism to Heide Park, but I think it's a great park, and had Colossos been open, maybe pushed for my favourite park. As it is, it's picturesque (aside from the odd bare section like near Desert Race) and has a good line-up of decent rides and other attractions. I wanted to dash back to Hamburg, so grabbed a kebab on the way out of the park.

Miniatur Wunderland

With some time left over at the end of the day, I went over to Miniatur Wunderland. If you're ever in Hamburg, definitely set some time out for this. It's a massive model train set on steroids, with multi-storey mountain ranges, a working airport and trains and cars whizzing about all over the place. There's so much detail and so many little jokes and easter eggs, that you could spend hours here (like I did) and not get bored at all.

I couldn't do this place justice, so you're best looking at photos by actual photographers. I did get a shot of some creds though...

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Wilde Maus

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Working drop tower

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Every fifteen or so minutes, the place transitions to night

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The control room is open to view

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Occasionally, something derails and a man appears, tip-toes through the city and fixes it

All in all, a fantastic first day. Next up, we travel north to Hansa-Park.
 
Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 1, Heide Park

Great to see you had a good time in Hamburg and Heide Park!

Also good to see that getting to Heide Park is quite easy by public transport - I opted to hire a car because I wasn't convinced it would be straightforward otherwise, but it seems to be quite easy!

Miniature Wunderland is so fab, I love it. <3
 
Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 1, Heide Park

Great report! Like Hixee, I'm glad to see reaching Heide by public transportation is doable. The park seems to have some really nice and well integrated coasters.

Miniatur Wunderland looks really cute :)
 
Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 1, Heide Park

Great report, jayjay! Sad to hear Colossos spited, though.
How long did it take you to walk to the park from the train station? It doesn't exactly seem to be the closest on the map.

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Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 1, Heide Park

The walk from Wolterdingen to the park is about 25 minutes (about 2 km), so it's not the shortest. But considering how many parks are in the middle of nowhere, it's fine for me.
 
Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 1, Heide Park

Thanks for an interesting trip report, jayjay! Always enjoy reading about people's first impressions of parks and coasters. Glad to see you enjoyed Heide, although I must say I am sort of gutted for you that Colossus was closed!

Looking forward to part 2!
 
Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 1, Heide Park

Hansa-Park

Got this part up quicker than I expected to. Enjoy.

Pro-tip for people doing Hansa-Park on public transport - Deutsche Bahn does "Hansa-Park Kombi-Tickets" (German only) from anywhere in Schleswig-Holstein for €€49 plus €25 for each additional person up to 5. Great deal - you can get a group of 5 from Hamburg to/from/into the park for €30 each! The guy at the Hamburg station info desk didn't seem to know anything about them though (not like it's on the DB website or anything) so had to trust that my German skills hadn't missed any important catches (I didn't have any train tickets checked in the end anyway). The journey was almost identical to the day before. Double decker train out of Hamburg, one change onto a smaller train, then a ten minute walk to the park.

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The woman on my train ticket wallet looks really fed up with the guy's smugness

Hansa welcomes you in the most German way possible...

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BIG CASTLE!

Not content with hanging around, it was straight over to Der Schwur des Kärnan. The queue is slow (though for a reason), so it took an hour to get through the whole thing. Hansa help out with an impressive series of queueline documentary videos featuring some historical reenactment and Swedish historians. There must be a good half-hour of this stuff.

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Atmospheric

So, what about the ride itself?

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Yes!

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YEESSS!

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YEEEEESSSSSSS!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

OK, the queue tedious, but it was absolutely worth it in the end. Without giving too much away, the indoor queue/preshow builds up the tension fabulously, so I was beaming before I even got on a train. I'd managed to avoid construction so had no idea what was inside. Does the outdoor section disappoint? Not in the slightest! It throws the rider around, dives in and out of itself, delivers airtime and fast close-to-the-ground action and when it hits the brakes, it's not even over! Easily my number one so far.

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The reverse freefall caught me a little by surprise, but I cottened on to something going on when it was taking an age waiting at the top of the lift hill. If there's one massive downside to this, it's that it hampers the throughput completely, which seems to be a general problem at Hansa. I'm sure it would get old fast, but the spinny-lights room was amusing for pick your seat. Makes you feel like "you are the chosen ones."

Everything else should've been a disappointment, but Hansa crams effort into almost every ride. The best showcase for this attitude is their simple kiddie cred...

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Just a tiny little kiddie cred

Die Schlange von Midgard (The snake of Midgard) has a themed queue and station, a queueline video featuring some fab ancient Norse drama, a preshow element and smoke projection effects. It's still a simple kiddie-cred, but it's amazing. The effort put into this small ride is what defines the whole park to me.

There's also a wild mine train... disappointingly uncomfortable.

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Casual banner fly-by

Next up, Nessie the Schwarzkopf looper. Not the best of the ones I've done, but perfectly acceptable.

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Gross free-for-all station

And then, the other Gerstlauer - Fluch von Novgorod.

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Spoilers: I went on the observation tower

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Station man does jazz hands!

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Had this ride been at any other park, it could accumulate enough saliva to run a small water works, but unfortunately it lives under the shadow of my new number one. The indoor launch was surprisingly strong, followed by a great airtime hill. Unfortunately, it runs into standard Gerstlauer lumpiness until the Eurofighter segment. Putting a ride indoors is always a way to get me to love it, so the indoor section is likely what put it up to number 2 on my list (for the moment) for that "fast and out-of-control" feeling. The corridor out of the ride is a welcome surprise. Clearly they started with "the station's here but we need to go all the way over here," and instead of making a boring corridor, played around with mazes and slides and everything.

Finally, I grabbed the mine train cred, which is a long circuit but not entirely exciting. Why wasn't it exciting?

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Ah, it's a Vekoma

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Lunch was a faff. I found a place doing turkey skewers, but must have spend a good twenty minutes queueing for it. Not a patch on Blackpool's "all noodles must be made individually and fresh" queue, but still enough to put a dampener on things. All creds done, so I headed to the observation tower.

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Oh yeah, this is a seaside park

One reride on Fluch later, it was getting late. I took a brief trip via the scenic route to the water ride.
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Foxes <3

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This would be so much fun with other CFers

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This guy was painting scenery in the main square.

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I agree

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I spy a fab Gerstlauer

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It's like Storm Surge but good

I was seated next to a very overenthusiastic German guy who I didn't understand. He was trying to get me to join in with his overenthusiasm. I don't think it worked.

What other way to finish the day than to go back to do a reride on Kärnan - still amazing.

Back to the hostel after a great day. Hansa Park doesn't have the scale or natural beauty of Heide, but it puts so much effort into their rides, that it's impossible to dislike. You don't feel pressured into buying stuff save for the occasional exit-through-the-gift-shop. Even their main gift shop looks quiet sedate:
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I bought a T shirt and a mug because I didn't feel pressured to buy anything - see how this works, Merlin?

So big thumbs up to Hansa-Park. Tomorrow, we leave Germany behind and take on Copenhagen. We also ride a train... which is also a ferry.
 
Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 3, Tivoli/Bakken

Bakken/Tivoli Gardens

Copenhagen was the first planned extension to my trip, since it was a simple hop to Gothenberg. After adding Hamburg to the trip, the plan was to get to Copenhagen and cross off Bakken and Tivoli in the same day.

First task of the day, train-ferry to Copenhagen.

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Literally a train on a ferry

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The journey offers pleasant views

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This is as artsy as I get

If you like trains or boats (and, like me, you just think this looked really cool ), it's a 5 hour direct journey punctuated by a 45 minute ferry where the train just rolls onto the boat and gets off the other side. Book in advance for cheap prices.

First stop, another Generator hostel. After mentioning to the British guy manning the front desk that I was here for theme parks, he told me that he used to work for Oakwood. Small world!

After a naff pizza slice from a 7-11 (which are everywhere in Copenhagen), a quick train to Klampenborg took me to stop number one: Bakken.

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The oldest theme park in the world

Bakken is a small park with a very traditional feel. Like most city parks, everything's packed in together. You've got all of the usual games stalls, arcades and shops, but it feels much more inclusive than somewhere like Blackpool. On one corner, you have a couple of thrill rides, but next to it, you'd have a beer house with a live Danish crooner providing a backdrop to some ballroom dancing. You'd never get anything like this in a UK theme park:

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There was a barber, a restaurant and lots of people dressed in posh clothes

So, a quick blast through the rides:

Tornado: A surprisingly painful and violent Intamin spinning coaster. Intamin's OTSRs gave me a neck injury that put a downer on the rest of the day (and according to the General Discussions topic, I'm not the only one)

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Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow

Rutschebanen: The worse of the two Rutschebanens. It's the sort of coaster that gives people the impression that all old woodies are rickety and uncomfortable (and opened in 1932, it's not even the older of the two). I may have also been put in a bad mood from Tornado

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Rutschebanen is Danish for uncomfortable

Mine Train Ulven: Best surprise for me. It's a good long circuit with plenty of scenery interaction, greenery, twists, turns and even a little airtime. Fab!

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Mine Train Ulven is Danish for Delightful

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Good job, but still not making amends for Tornado, Intamin

Wild Mouse: It was OK

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Vilde Mus is Danish for mediocre

Racing: 1980s Zierer. It's not the best. The only noteworthy thing I remember is that the brakes are operated by manual levers, which seems odd for something from the 1980s

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This is not a very good ride, so here's a not very good photo

Apart from the rides, there are, of course, lots of other distractions dotted around. There's arcades (lots and lots of arcades). I poked my head into one of them to see what they had and OH MY GOD YES

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<3 <3

It's probably best that I only had one 10 Kr coin to spend lest I blow through my life savings. Instead, I stopped to watch a guy play with a parrot.

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I like to pretend that this is just a random guy taking his parrot for a walk

Almost time to move on. Back to the mine train, because it was fab. Then a go on the sky fly

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Teeny tiny sky fly

I also found a safari themed dark ride shooter: lots of green and not massively interesting. One ice cream later, I decided to move onto Tivoli Gardens.

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Tivoli Gardens

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Ignore the crane in the background

I felt sorry for Bakken, whose marketing seemed to extend to "guys, we exist too," but Tivoli blows it out of the water on most counts. I'd describe Tivoli best as "a classy Blackpool Pleasure Beach," and I wouldn't be surprised if Blackpool picked up a lot of their ideas from Tivoli Gardens. It's got all the themed areas, gardens, pretty lighting and 20s Art Deco styling you'd want from such a place.

Instead of heading straight for creds, I decided to take to the star-flyer for a scout-out. Ultra-paranoid Tivoli decided we should all turn out our pockets to make sure we couldn't drop anything from the ride (though apparently nobody cares that I could easily take off my watch).

First, I crossed off the mine train, Odinexpressen. Not massively exciting as mine trains go, so I moved onto Rutschebanen

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Also, very difficult to take good photos of

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This brakeman was called James. We like people called James

This is the older of the two Rutschebanens (1914) and it's brilliant! Lots of airtime and fast turns through the dark. My favourite thing about it is the very quirky character, defined for me by one moment where you navigate a turnaround indoors and an ice cave scene pops up out of nowhere. Clearly classic Blackpool picked up ideas from here.

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While I was here, I had a brief go on Minen, a boat/shooter ride themed to a mine. I can't remember much past the annoying laser sound effects and slightly creepy bear/mole models.

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Some light evening jazz

The other side of the park had a B&M, so off to Daemonen. It's tight and snappy, but nothing to write home about.

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Daemonen

Fata Morgana was nearby, so a quick ride was had. It's a strange ride: it looks absolutely gorgeous, but the reality is a mildly uncomfortable experience where you get whipped round a tower. It would be nice as a "views of Copenhagen" ride if the Star Flyer didn't do a much better job of that.

As night descended, I headed back to the hostel, after having a wander around the quiet parts of the park.

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Copenhagen/Gothenberg

Not much to talk about on the Thursday: I decided to give myself a quiet day, with the whole morning and early afternoon to wander around Copenhagen before moving on to Gothenberg. Pointed my camera at some things that looked touristy.

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Copenhagen University

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Round Tower (Rundetaarn)

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Train, what are you doing, you're not a car

While looking for things to do, I found out that I'd managed to be in Copenhagen during pride week. So why not head for Rainbow Square! (yes, it's actually called Rainbow Square - renamed because of Pride stuffs)

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Fabulous!

There was music, rainbows and food stalls everywhere. Unfortunately quiet during the day. Had I reaslised sooner, I'd have seen what was on the night before and taken Tivoli today. But I did get to hear a naff band playing Common People in Danish and eat some meatballs (heh).

So, after wandering around, eating far too much Danish pastry (highlight was a delicious strawberry tart in the food hall by Nørreport station), and not seeing much of anything, I sat down to wait for my train to Gothenberg.

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Europe does a good line in pretty central train stations.

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Aside from a passport check change at the airport, it's a fairly relaxed journey, with pleasant views over the Øresund straight between Denmark and Sweden. I was meeting Ploddish at the station, where we spent a couple of minutes wandering past each other.

For the rest of the night, we were content with wandering around Gothenberg looking at amusing things.

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GET OUT OF MY WAY I'M A TRAM

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Huh, guess it was in Gothenburg all along

We looked about for affordable food and accidentally ended up in an up-market Italian place. Delicious food, lovingly prepared and with a pleasant atmosphere. Unfortunately, my wallet enjoyed it a little less.

Also in Gothenburg was a culture festival, where some free concerts were taking place.

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More of the culture festival in the morning, when the rest of CF arrives and the group takes on Liseberg.
 
Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 3, Tivoli/Bakken

James - I love these trip reports!
So many TR's are really boring to read: "We did this, which was good, then we did this, which wasn't very good.." etc etc... but these are really entertaining to read.
Hurry up and write the next part please!
 
Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 3, Tivoli/Bakken

Great report so far Jay, a train on a boat? get outta town!
 
Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 3, Tivoli/Bakken

Another great section there! Tis a shame you didn't get to see Tivoli at it's peak which is of course after dark!
 
Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 3, Tivoli/Bakken

Ahh I wanna go on a Train-Ferry!

Great report so far, I was impressed (and jealous aha) you managed to turn the live into a week long cred trip.
 
Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 3, Tivoli/Bakken

Another great section there! Tis a shame you didn't get to see Tivoli at it's peak which is of course after dark!
I did get to see a little bit of darkness, though I decided to leave early-ish because three days worth of creds were exhausting me a little. I'd want to stay a bit later if I go again.

Ahh I wanna go on a Train-Ferry!
Puttgarden in Germany to Roedby in Denmark. I also forgot to mention that the train goes past Hansa :p

Will get writing on the next parts. But expect fewer photos since everyone else had actual cameras and things.
 
Re: Northern Europe Cred-Hunt - Pt 3, Tivoli/Bakken

I'm back from the dead! Expect fewer photos from now on, since I figured it would be best leaving it to the people with actual cameras and photography experience.

Friday - Liseberg

For once, no early start was required. Liseberg, like many city centre parks, opened in the afternoon. The first job was to wander around Gothenburg looking for breakfast, and with a bit of luck, we stumbled upon an international food market.

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For the record, the British stalls were mostly selling fudge

Ploddish tried to go for a "only one item from each country" approach. We started with some French baguettes, then some lemonade from the Poland stand. Then Ploddish noticed some French eclairs, and the whole system fell through (it was worth it though). Adequately filled, it was time to start wandering towards the park. How about some motivation ready for a good day...

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DAMN RIGHT!

Step 1: meet Sue. It turns out there are multiple car parks around Liseberg - some unofficial ones near the entrance, and the park's car park around the back. We found the unofficial ones, then walked around to the official one, before getting a message from Sue that she was at the unofficial car park. We picked up Howie in the meantime, so we headed around to the entrance, doling out eclairs to people.

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Woooo

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First stop: Helix

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Insert superlative here

Helix and I got off to a bad start. I suppose it's inevitable when everybody hypes something up as the greatest thing in the universe ever. It's paced beautifully, but something didn't feel complete. It turns out Sue's observation of "it's a coaster that gets better with every ride" would prove itself to be true later.

Next up was Lisebergbanana, which happened to be cred number 200. This is one ride I probably admire far more than I love. The swoops down the hill are all great and I love the way it dives under and over everything else at the park. It just lacks that bite that makes me fall in love with it (it's also unfortunately overshadowed by Helix and Balder)

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Best bit of lisebergbanan where it casually hops over the log flume

Two kiddie creds later, lunch was had in the fish and chips place. Not the best park food in the world unfortunately. Time to head around to Kanonenenen.

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It's an Intamin accelerator. What could possibly go wrong

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I didn't notice that cattlepen at first... looks gross

We killed the shortish queue for Kanonen listening to Plod's adventure with Richard and co. in China, but not too much later, we'd made it to the station. Normally, I'm a big fan of accelerators (Stealth, Rita and Desert Race adorn my top 20), but this one feels a little clumsy. A good launch leads into the smallest of top hats, and a pokey, vaguely uncomfortable layout. It's not actually too bad save for the inline twist which whips you violently around. Time for some wood, methinks.

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Pictured: wood

Balder's queue was about twenty minutes, and winds its way through the support structure. Does it stack up? Yeah, it's pretty good. But I definitely felt that feeling of "by-the-numbers" that other people felt towards it. The airtime feels very mechanical. As if you gave instructions to a robot on how to design a good coaster.

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You tried

Back up the hill for some smaller rides. There was a Sky Fly, which was pretty fun being parked on the side of a hill-with-a-view, a log flume that actually dared to get people wet (the horror) and Uppswingen, the S&S Screamin' Swing, which was tonnes of fun, as all Screamin' Swings are. Here was also where we met the best ride-op in the world. He had a boxing glove on a stick, and threatened Richard (I think) to meet him after the ride. Faff ensued on the drop tower, when I went to put a bag down and realised a million people had filled the seats with a good view :( . Eurgh. Time for more Helix, which was starting to grow on me (with Ian's lovingly acquired fastpasses)

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Helix is love. Helix is life

Now for the Gasten Ghost Hotel. Usually, I don't go for horror attractions, but it turned out this wasn't so bad. They put all the effort into lovingly crafted elaborate sets and costumes rather than cheap jump scares.

After a break for some ribs, the rest of the day was spent on rerides (and Swedish Bling). It goes without saying that everything comes to life at night. Balder feels lightning fast, Lisebergbanan finds its form, and Helix is something else. I love the look of the park all lit up at night. One of my favourite little things about Helix was the view you get by sitting at the front of the train in the station. The track drops out below you and the view of Gothenberg is beautifully framed by the station's exit portal.

I'll add my name to the list of Liseberg fans. It's got a great selection of things, and a great atmosphere.

Time to drive to the hotel in Jönköping. Next up, Kolmården and Gröna Lund.
 
So wants me go back to Liseberg.

Just love the ride lineup, atmosphere, food options -and the best midway games were you cannot win some China made cheap plush but huge packs of Swedish chocolate!
 
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