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Schwaben Park | Wilde Hilde | RES Roller Ball

Discussion in 'Roller Coaster Construction' started by ATI, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. Pear

    Pear Well-Known Member

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    You must be fun at parties
     
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    Ben Well-Known Member CF Award Winner 2016

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    Such a good engineer but yet you haven’t been able to figure out how this works in the 14 years since RCT3 came out...
     
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    Jarrett Most Obnoxious Member 2016 CF Award Winner 2016

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    Oh I can tell how it works, I just thought it was a strange design choice. It's an interesting situation because in most cases, high torsion is only seen on cylindrical rods. Now that's what the spine is in a sense so I get that. It's the weld holding the ties to the spine that I thought were unusual in that that's a lot of shear on that weld. Now obviously it works or they wouldn't be building it.

    "That's an unusual design" =/= "I don't understand how this works

    There's no denying it's unusual, there's nothing else like it in the world. Unless maybe I'm wrong, is there any coaster type where the track holds the train from the side? Now I'm curious.

    Edit: Just thought about this, F.L.Y. will have sideways sections if I’m not mistaken, that’ll put the launch track in torsion for sure if it works the way I think it does.
     
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    Sanchezmran Well-Known Member

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    Just saw this. Looks very weird. I haven't done either the Zacspin or Freespin but this seems like an interesting alternative. The little drops could be fun?
     
  5. Pear

    Pear Well-Known Member

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    It should be a really interesting experience seeing as how the restraints are only lapbars and no vests.
     
  6. GuyWithAStick

    GuyWithAStick Captain Basic Staff Member Moderator Social Media Team

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    I am 99% sure FLY 'twists' to the flying position before the launch. Although, a sideways launch like that would be quite the sensation!
     
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    I think rumour is that it first has a slow launch, akin to a chain lift sideways, and an actual launch partway through the layout in flying position
     
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    Dave Well-Known Member

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    Speaking as a pure simpleton with nothing but pure guess work. It is supported one sided by a large structure which will take the strain of the track and cars.

    But what do I know, don't introduce myself as an expert regularly to make a point....

    Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
     
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    To be honest the rails themselves will mitigate much of the stress as they will essentially be loaded in a bending case caused by the wheel bogeys of the coach. Plus the fact that the tubes will be supported on both ends just presents a better scenario for stress mitigation.

    Also we're talking about 1/4" wall steel tube...maybe even 3/8" wall. Any sort of torsional deflection will likely be minimal.
     
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    Hixee Moderator Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    Given that they're Swiss, I don't think that they'll be talking about any of that nonsense. ;)
     
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    Good catch - they'll have cheese holes sized and spaced in metric units
     
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    Schwaben have posted this on Facebook.
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    Pear Well-Known Member

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    Why not just do one of each?

    It's very tacky but kinda cute. Kids will love it.
     
  14. ATI

    ATI Spammer of the Year & Most Improved Member CF Award Winner 2016

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    Like you said, why not one of each?

    But if I was to choose one, it would be number 3.
     
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    Lofty Social Media Team Staff Member Social Media Team

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    Number 2 for me.
     
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    This reminds me so much of a failed kickstarter for some reason.
     
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    Jarrett Most Obnoxious Member 2016 CF Award Winner 2016

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    I like the first one with the hat actually simply for the color but I think 3 looks most like something you'd actually find on a kiddie ride.
     
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    Pear Well-Known Member

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    Yes but from an engineering standpoint what is the best design?
     
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    Jarrett Most Obnoxious Member 2016 CF Award Winner 2016

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    Well I deliberately didn't post anything along those lines as I didn't want to come across as arrogant or gloaty (yes, I actually do take criticism from posts and run with it, no matter how rude or snarky it may be) but since you bring it up...

    They all work the same. Looking at the prints, it's all the same two-dimensional structure onto which the artwork will be applied. Unless there's some need for relief to give it some depth, it's all the same to manufacture. That is, assuming those radii are for the structure and not some sort of envelope, which I doubt as you can clearly see the rider's knee sticking out beyond the space.

    So yeah, don't really know because I do admit I'm not an expert but if I'm reading those prints right, it's all the same unless there's relief to the graphic.
     
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    Pear Well-Known Member

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    Strange. All those smarts yet you can't detect sarcasm eh?
     
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