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History vs. Thrill?

Discussion in 'Q&A' started by MestnyiGeroi, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:27 PM.

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  1. MestnyiGeroi

    MestnyiGeroi Active Member

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    Would you be excited to visit Idlewild Park in Pennsylvania? It's the third oldest operating park in the States, and it's steeped in that old-timey amusement park feel. Would that get you enthusiastic to see the place, or would your attitude be "It's mostly a kiddie park with two nothing coasters -- no thanks"?

    Would you be excited to ride Leap-the-Dips at Lakemont Park in the same state, knowing it's the oldest operating coaster in the world, or would you think, "Yet another coaster with an ACE plaque and a dull, forgettable ride"?

    In other words, are the history and lore of amusement parks a part of your interest, or are you all about the thrill of the rides and nothing else?

    Which one is closest to you?

    A. I go to amusement parks for thrills, not museum curiosities. I want awesome rides and don't care about the history of rides or parks.

    B. Yeah, the historical aspects are kind of cool and I enjoy them here and there, but I'm primarily about the thrills.

    C. Both the history of a park or ride AND the thrill level of rides are really enjoyable aspects of my amusement park experience.

    D. The history and lore of parks are my biggest interest. I'm all about the old-school amusement park experience, and thrill rides are fun but less important to me.
     
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  2. Mysterious Sue

    Mysterious Sue Well-Known Member

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    Definitely C for me. Obviously we all love to experience the thrills but I equally cherish the chance to experience something of historical relevance. That doesn't mean that old always = good of course, but the examples you've listed (oldest coaster in the world etc.) are on my bucket list. I'm totally gutted that Lakemont Park isn't going to be opening while I'm that way this year.
     
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    Yeah, fwiw, I'm definitely C as well, but as I've been getting to know this forum in the past months I've gotten quite a few possible hints that there are a lot of A and B folks around here, so I asked out of genuine curiosity.
     
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    I think there are a lot of people on this forum who would bulldoze anything pre-1960 without a moment's hesitation.
     
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    C: I love old coasters. They're not all great but for me History adds to a ride experience. That said a bad coaster to me is still a bad coaster, no amount of history can change that. just like no matter of worlds firsts or other new technology can make what i found to be a bad coaster a good coaster.

    Notice leap the dips at my number 10. That ride was just pure fun for me. Had a great experience on it and the fact that it's the oldest operating in the world is a plus, but not all defining.
     
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    Hixee Most Knowledgeable Member 2016 Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    C.

    I love all the history of the old woodies at Blackpool, but I'm really stoked for Icon. Lakemont Park (specifically Leap the Dips) was really lovely, but Cedar Point was amazing. I probably do more "thrill" parks on average than "historic" parks (I'd guess the split is probably something 75/25), but I do enjoy both equally.
     
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    Yeah C.

    The last coaster I rode was the 1930 kiddie steel and I made a specific stop there for it (well, theres nothing else there)
    https://rcdb.com/1824.htm
     
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    I'll be the first boneheaded B then. 'Here and there' is pretty much spot on.
    A good ride is a good ride and I don't find age makes much of an impact on that.
     
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    There's nothing boneheaded about stating your preferences. I suspect there are a lot of As and Bs on this forum, so I'm glad you broke the C pattern.
     
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    Jarrett Most Obnoxious Member 2016 CF Award Winner 2016

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    A

    Outdated technology is for museums, not to be used in practice. With the exception of a select few that are still very good, I will always find outdated rides to be inferior to more modern, technologically advanced rides. I'm the biggest advocate for technological progress in the amusement industry you'll ever meet. If a park wants to operate as a museum for the amusement industry like Knoebels, fine, but for a park that's supposed to be relevant, I would gladly be the guy to bulldoze everything pre-1972 and replace it with something modern. I'm a complete supporter of the RMC conversion on almost anything before 1972 and about half of what exists between 1972 and 1980. It's kind of interesting to see the stuff that was built before CAD and CNC technology to see how it was done back then, but I'd far rather see that space used to demonstrate something cutting edge and state of the art.
     
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    While I can't bring myself to go full Jarrett on this one, I'm definitely more of a B than a C.
    I'm not one for keeping lots of old crap lying around just for history's sake. If it's a good ride or is actually historically significant, sure, keep it going as long as possible, but just 'being old' is not a good enough reason on its own to keep a rough knacker open indefinitely.
    Take Blackpool for example, home of 5 classic woodies. I'd be quite happy to see at least 3 of them bulldozed to make way for new stuff. They're a bit short of space in Blackpool, right?
    Actually, make that 4 of them - just keep the Big Dipper.
    In fact, bulldoze the Big Dipper too - the last time I rode it I thought it was utter sh*t.
    Oh what the Hell - I'm an A.
     
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    I am probably B as well.
    Old coasters are cool, but if they suck... they suck. Old coasters that are still fun are very cool though.
    If I was the one deciding about what to bulldoze, I would try to avoid bulldozing anything that is still fun and try to keep it alive, if necessary with a retrack, new trains or something like that. If the layout sucks though and could be done a lot better, I would bulldoze and replace it. The most important thing is fun (not thrill).
    I absolutely love Eurosat even though it is relatively old, and I am really happy it gets retracked instead of replaced. I like its story and I am glad it doesn't end yet.
     
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    somewhere between b and c - I can enjoy a day at blackpool almost as much as a day at say, phantasialand..
     
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    I'd say I'm B. I like roller coasters a lot, and I also like history a bit so it's always nice to read some of the plaques.
     

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