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Coaster Tournament '17 Finals!

Discussion in 'Polls' started by valleyfair!, Oct 7, 2017.

  1. caffeine_demon

    caffeine_demon Well-Known Member

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  2. valleyfair!

    valleyfair! Well-Known Member

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    I'll close off the voting with:
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    That means Lightning Rod is the 2017 CF Coaster Tournament Champion!

    To view the final results of the entire tournament visit: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=467876

    Big thanks to everyone who participated! I apologize that it was a little clunkier this year, than in the previous few years. With that said, hope everyone still gets enjoyment out of voting for all the matchups!
     
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  3. Snoo

    Snoo Well-Known Member

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    Lightning Rod.. by country miles.
     
  4. Hixee

    Hixee Most Knowledgeable Member 2016 Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    Top work again @valleyfair!. This is an excellent poll and always good fun to see coasters getting spited as the rounds progress. :p

    Plus, Lightning Rod won this year, which is clearly the correct outcome. ;)
     
  5. DelPiero

    DelPiero Well-Known Member

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    Is there a way to get the ranking results from 1-20 or something @valleyfair! ?
    Thanks for running it as per usual, I love how CF always comes up with good final matchups, almost like we know better than Amusement Today ;)
     
  6. HeartlineCoaster

    HeartlineCoaster Active Member

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    Congrats to Lightning Rod.
    Thought Taron would run away with it. Glad it didn't.
    Was interesting to see how the tournament developed for my first time. It became quite hard for me to vote for something that may be objectively better over something with a personal attachment.
    Thanks for organising.
     
  7. valleyfair!

    valleyfair! Well-Known Member

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    I went through and put through what would be considered the "Top 25" for this year. Coasters that lost in the same round I give the first tiebreaker to the coaster that lost by a smaller vote differential, and the second tiebreaker to the coaster who lost to a coaster that advanced further in the tournament.

    1. Lightning Rod
    2. Skyrush
    3. Helix
    4. Wildfire
    5. Taron
    6. Storm Chaser
    7. Outlaw Run
    8. Wicked Cyclone
    9. Boulder Dash
    10. Voyage
    11. Nemesis
    12. Medusa Steel Coaster
    13. Flying Aces
    14. T Express
    15. Flash
    16. Fury 325
    17. X2
    18. Intamin Mega-Lite Clones
    19. Leviathan
    20. El Toro
    21. Maverick
    22. Shambhala
    23. Expedition GeForce
    24. Twisted Colossus
    25. Superman the Ride
     
  8. Hixee

    Hixee Most Knowledgeable Member 2016 Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    I suspect that isn't a very "robust" way of ranking the top 25. Taron was knocked out in the quarter finals because it came up against Lightning Rod, but looking at the pairings from that round, Taron would have beaten all of the six other coasters (in my opinion). Therefore Taron would have likely been in the final. Doesn't affect the fact that Lightning Rod is a better coaster than Taron, but Taron is definitely not the 5th best coaster from that list - it's the second.

    In my opinion, brackets are great at finding the number one, but after that ranking them meaningfully becomes awfully difficult.
     
  9. ThomVD

    ThomVD Well-Known Member

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    ^ I think that isn't the only reason why such a list isn't very robust. The fact that a lot of people haven't ridden most of the coasters in the match-ups (and still vote for/against them) makes this entire list quite worthless. The tournament is good fun, but far from reliable.
     
  10. DelPiero

    DelPiero Well-Known Member

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    Still better than golden tickets :)
     
  11. ThomVD

    ThomVD Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah, I'm very happy with the results usually. My fave won twice and last year it was literally my top 2 in the final. This year almost as well :p Looking at your top 10 you can't disagree with the results either, hah. But yeah, it's far from a legit tool for rankings. But then again, you can't really make an objective list of top coasters because there aren't any universally best coasters. It will always be full of bias and that's fine. That's why we have these forums.
     
  12. Hixee

    Hixee Most Knowledgeable Member 2016 Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    Don't confuse the point of a bracket with the point of a ranking system. A bracket like this simply aims to find the best coaster - it's never really intended to produce a detailed ranking. You can't know how Lightning Rod would have scored against Helix had they been paired up the round before (I mean, Lightning Rod would have still won, but that's not the point. ;) ). It's why third and fourth place playoffs are a thing - they're an attempt to give a ranking to the top handful.

    Well you can. And that coaster is Lightning Rod. :p
     
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  13. ThomVD

    ThomVD Well-Known Member

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    Hah, we're all fanboys of our #1 and that's okay ;) I don't see it beating Helix for me personally (as that has a lot of factors to it that make it my #1), but we shall see.
     
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  14. Hixee

    Hixee Most Knowledgeable Member 2016 Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    I'm a fanboy of Lightning Rod in the same way I'm a fanboy of air, or water, or food. It's an absolute necessity of life. :p
     
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  15. valleyfair!

    valleyfair! Well-Known Member

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    Exactly! Better systems to rank a Top 25 than what a bracket would provide. Staying objective from bracket results to make a list has its faults.
     
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